Realistic joysticks/throttles

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by Vengeanze

I'd love some kinda "box" with trimwheels and throttle, radiator, mix and pitchsticks that I can easily mount to my desktops left side.
That together with an authentic stick with ffb with perhaps a couple of buttons for fire, comm and quickzoom.

There! Make one of those and you have atleast one customer.

Do this with 109 parts and ill buy for sure. For that matter you'd be money ahead to have 109 parts for sale when you open the doors. Lots of people in this sim and IL2 like the Spit/Hurricane, but there are MILLIONS of die hard Hundert-neun drivers. You know, people who appreciate what a real airplane should be...
I kid, I kid...kinda.

[Honeymonster]

I built a little box for CEM and trim, I'd love a Spitfire stick to go with it and only the fire button would be needed for me. The problem with making these things as it's very labour intensive when comparing to a injection moulded piece of...

Unfortunately for most people that will make the cost prohibative. There was a company making proper spitfire simulator controls but I think the chap in charge passed away. They were very expensive though.



I don't claim it's realistic... just better than a keyboard.

[Boandlgramer]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Do this with 109 parts and ill buy for sure. For that matter you'd be money ahead to have 109 parts for sale when you open the doors. Lots of people in this sim and IL2 like the Spit/Hurricane, but there are MILLIONS of die hard Hundert-neun drivers. You know, people who appreciate what a real airplane should be...
I kid, I kid...kinda.

Are you so NEW to Flightsims ?
Tarmac Aces is selling Bf 109 controlls since a couple of years already...........

[Honeymonster]

That Tarmac aces kit looks (where's the dribbling smiley when you need it.)

But it is , and quite deservedly very expensive. On the other hand if this chap can make a nice spitfire hoop stick attachment that will fit on my MSFF2 I'd be sure to buy it, as I'm sure would a lot of other people.

[Boandlgramer]

I don´t want to call 570 Euros VERY expensive, because the numbers they produce are, compared to the industry, very small.
Remove the VAT and they get about 475 Euro for a stick/base.

[Honeymonster]

I'm not implying they are not worth the money. I have already made the point that constructing this kind of thing is labor intensive and a cottage industry. You do end up with a product of very high quality. The problem is how many of the simmers here can justify that kind of money on a stick without getting brutally beaten by the wife on its arrival?

Also if you had 470 euros laying about most people would benefit more from upgrading their graphics card rather than their joystick.

Of course for the select few this is an excellent product, and those who are single or have very understanding wife's are sure to buy it.

I know I would...

[xnomad]

What I was thinking about the other day is this:

Someone has to buy the rights to the MS FFB2 and expand on it. Build it as a base like the Tarmac aces one, where you can add different stick types.

I'd love to have a full length KG13 Bf109 stick with FFB. Or am I getting it wrong and the Tarmac Aces one is FFB? I can't really tell from the website, but it's very expensive. Not sure if my wife would be happy with me spending a lot on a stick and base.

I go through one new surfboard a year, but that's a sports item so she has no problem with the $600 there.

[flyingblind]

The thing about making a replica Spit column is that it is fine if all you want to fly is a Spit. It just wouldn't feel right if using it for a 109. It's the same if you build a pit modeled too closely to an actual cockpit - it becomes restrictive. I am sure there is a market for replica parts but personally, because I fly many different types of planes I would prefer a more generic style because I can fly a spit or anything else without losing immersion. I think it would be nice to have a stick with a more period feel to it with more WWII style switches and buttons. The only thing that might be quite good would be to design an attachment that some DIYer could fit to his joystick shaft in place of the existing grip and then supply a range of replica grips which could be simply plugged in or out depending which plane you were using.

[Doc_uk]

Website
http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/spit...ct-review.html

[VO101_MMaister]

Your business idea is mostly welcomed. I think the critical thing is to find the right price/performance balance.
I guess to sell grips to existing sticks is a good idea. You can use the same grips to your base as well, so you can manufacture these parts in greater numbers what keeps the price tag lower.

If you design a base which can handle both short and full length sticks (with some adjsutments), and has the immersion of a real flight column (no center point, damped movement) that could be a hit as well.
The FFB would be nice, but not at all costs. What would be great though to have some kind of mechanical trim on the y (elevator) axis.

Good Luck
MM