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Old 05-23-2011, 08:18 PM
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And I repeadly strongly suggest to use such brilliant extern tools like MAT manager to handle such issues.
Not really an issue. And, as you write, MAT Manager (or Photoshop) does the job.

Any feedback as for night fighting?
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:42 AM
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Any feedback as for night fighting?
That topic will be more adressed in future. But its still lotta work to do to have it the proper way. So no details yet.

No special plans towards Spanish Civil War, although I agree, with relative low efforts, there could be a working scenario, primarly it needs a proper map.
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Old 05-24-2011, 09:08 AM
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I don't understand why people still bitch about the lack of swastika.

It is a symbol related to politics. What do politics add to a flight simulator? Let me answer that, just one thing: More problems...
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Old 05-24-2011, 01:24 PM
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I don't understand why people still bitch about the lack of swastika.
I don't get it either. I hope it's just a desire for realism, not an actual desire to glorify fascism. Anyhow, if you want the hakenkreuz or realistic Finnish markings, just use one of the however many skins there are out there, Mat manager, or one of the various mods which allows politically incorrect markings to be displayed.

This option gets requested a lot, mostly by people who don't realize that the swastika is outlawed in some countries and is considered to be in extremely bad taste in many more. If DT had a FAQ, it should be right up there with other things that cannot be included in the game.
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Old 05-24-2011, 02:01 PM
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It is about history. Like it or not all German planes had a hakenkreuz painted on their tail. How about flying without any national markings on russian planes, because comunism was evil?
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Old 05-24-2011, 02:48 PM
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At the risk of breaking a site rule, even the British Fleet Air Arm was known to use the swastika. This is a Blackburn Dart landing on HMS Furious in 1926. The use of the swastika by Finnish Air Forces pre-dated the rise of the nazi's in Germany. However laws are laws and some national sensitivities are understandably greater than others.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...titled-1-9.jpg

Don't click on the link if you might be offended.

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Old 05-24-2011, 04:24 PM
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It is about history. Like it or not all German planes had a hakenkreuz painted on their tail. How about flying without any national markings on russian planes, because comunism was evil?
No it is not about history it is about politics. The luftwaffe symbol is there, so you instantly know that this plane belongs to Germany. That is enough for a flight simulator.

And the fact that you already gοt into politics discussion (the communism comment) confirms that I am right.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:04 PM
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The swastika is outlawed in several countries. Companies selling products must respect those laws or have problems. Who cares enough about a stupid swastika to create problems.

Basically, some people stupidly fixate on something like the swastika that means nothing. They just want to create issues for complaints.

Why not put a picture of "Hello Kitty" on the tail of your Axis aircraft. It would mean just about as much, and maybe even get a smile from the dude that blasts your butt out of the sky.

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Old 05-24-2011, 06:45 PM
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GENTLEMEN, LET'S FORGET ABOUT SVASTIKAS!

I'm sorry my first post generated such a squabble. I didn't mean to, and I thought my 2 previous posts made my point clear: I consider this a side issue of the game, and as it would be outlaw, the question is over (and thus any debate in this place is of questionable interest, IMHO).

I created this situation against my will. So I'll try to put an end to the argument and bring everybody round:

A famous pioneer airman said: "The first guy who painted a roundel on an airplane is a criminal".

I ain't sure, but it may be famous Brazilian pilot Alberto Santos-Dumont, who was horrified by the use of (unarmed) airplanes for military purpose when WWI started, and even more by the use of armed airplanes when they appeared. As some of you may know, he ended committing suicide, depressed by incurable disease (sclerosis) and supposedly also by the use of aircraft in warfare.

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I'd be pleased to see my 2nd initial topic debated with even more enthousiam (see next post).
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:58 PM
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No special plans towards Spanish Civil War, although I agree, with relative low efforts, there could be a working scenario, primarly it needs a proper map.
There are a large number of modded maps for Spain which look good, if the modders agree, perhaps they could become official.
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