Why fly the Spitfire?

[JG14_Jagr]

Years ago I was at a golf tournament and we only had a threesome so a 4th was added. The guy was an older Brit named Hal and while we played he mentioned he had been to Florida in the 40's for flight training while in the RAF. So we started talking and he got into the details of his experiences and how he loved the AT-6 because you could do anything you wanted with it..

He explained that after passing all the screening and his basic flight training he was in a large room (after the BoB, probably 1942) and the Commander walked in and stood before the class and said "Who wants to fly Spitfires?"

Every person in the room stood up enthusiasticly. The Commander looked around and said, "So did I, but they made me a Bomber pilot and thats what I'm making you."

"Hal" ended up piloting a Halifax Bomber over Germany. In all his flights he got hit with flak 3 times and once had a German night fighter fly right across in front of him at very cose range almost on the same heading then never saw him again..

Back to CoD, if you are having trouble killing 109's with the Spitfire you are the problem.. I was routinely getting 2-3 109's before the current Beta messed with Multiplayer for me. If you can get 2-3 Spitfires with a 109 I'll be impressed

[Doc_uk]

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr

Years ago I was at a golf tournament and we only had a threesome so a 4th was added. The guy was an older Brit named Hal and while we played he mentioned he had been to Florida in the 40's for flight training while in the RAF. So we started talking and he got into the details of his experiences and how he loved the AT-6 because you could do anything you wanted with it..

He explained that after passing all the screening and his basic flight training he was in a large room (after the BoB, probably 1942) and the Commander walked in and stood before the class and said "Who wants to fly Spitfires?"

Every person in the room stood up enthusiasticly. The Commander looked around and said, "So did I, but they made me a Bomber pilot and thats what I'm making you."

"Hal" ended up piloting a Halifax Bomber over Germany. In all his flights he got hit with flak 3 times and once had a German night fighter fly right across in front of him at very cose range almost on the same heading then never saw him again..

Back to CoD, if you are having trouble killing 109's with the Spitfire you are the problem.. I was routinely getting 2-3 109's before the current Beta messed with Multiplayer for me. If you can get 2-3 Spitfires with a 109 I'll be impressed

LOL i like that

[Reckless]

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr

If you can get 2-3 Spitfires with a 109 I'll be impressed

how about 6?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YygiM6FXLXQ

[Gollum]

I enjoy flying both the 109 and spitfire. I also exclusively play online. I chose to fly the Ia spitfire and not to fly the IIa spitfire even when it is available because it is currently too powerful compared to the current FM of the 109. The IIa out turns, out climbs, out runs, all others. What fun is that?

Either way, I have no problem getting kills with either plane but there are rules to each.

109, never get into turning battles. If you don't have the altitude advantage then dive the hell away and climb again before attacking. If you get caught with an altitude disadvantage you better hope you have room to dive or that your oponent is a lousy shot giving you enough time to get out of range.

Spit, turning battles are ok but why do this when altitude advantage is your friend. Get the advantage and keep it (same goes for any plan you fly). If you are a turn and burn all the time pilot with no consideration for potential and kinetic energy then there is good reason you are having trouble with 109's. With alt advantage the spit neutralizes the the 109's climb and speed advandage (with the exception of the dive, so don't follow. keep alt and pursue). Without altitude advantage its the 109 who choses when to fight. If you don't have it, you better hope you have a friend that does. I have yet to find a way to "abort" an encounter with 109's swirling like sharks above. My current strategy in this situation is only to wait until a mistake is made by some unfortunate pilot who then gets a motor full of 303s. But who knows, maybe i'll figure something out soon enough. Until then, avoid this situation at all costs.

Try it out and work on your "critial point gunnery" and see if you still hate the spit.

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by Reckless

how about 6?

Nice shooting. Deflection shots were nice. Do that online agains non AI and I'll really be impressed.

[Reckless]

I would love to make that attempt, but sadly my computer crashes so often I have given up playing online.


One point though, flying the 109 vs 6 AI spitfires it is quite possible to win. Flying the spitfire IIa vs 6 AI 109s it is almost impossible. This is flying on the Quick Mission: Dogfight - Low Level.

[JG14_Jagr]

Originally Posted by Reckless

how about 6?

AI do not count.. I could train a one eyed monkey to shoot down AI

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr

AI do not count.. I could train a one eyed monkey to shoot down AI

rofl...I indeed shot down 6 AI Spits in a 109 before getting to low and going for a swim...

It easy to get these numbers against AI when they cant shoot the door of a barn..

After about 3 mins trying to track 6 Spits against my 1 109 i would of been slaughted if they could shoot staight

Id like to see ANY 109 pilot taking on 5-6 human Spits with equal skill and come off on top

[Grand_Armee]

1 v 6 are losers odds...in any plane matchup. Even if you do manage to maintain the height and energy advantage, chances are one of those six will pull up just at the right time to put a stream of bullets in front of your plane.