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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-23-2011, 04:35 AM
Kankkis Kankkis is offline
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I have G940 and sometimes my joystick goes allway limb, i mean no centering force but rumbling forces working on G turns and firing with guns but no centering force at all, If i put joystick fully left it stays there and then centering force is coming back after flying sometime.

I have setting in Windows "enable Centering Spring with FF games" OFF, because normally when playing FF games it should be OFF because then you feel better your speed with centering force, faster speed stronger centering spring and vice versa.

Secondly, takeoff FF is terrible, some kicks there and there, better is rumbling all the time.

Mine overall feelings for FF effects is very good, like it.

EDIT : Just tested more takeoff's seems like sometimes FF is working better in takeoff, sometimes joystick goes limb and kicks there and there strong spikes

Other opinions...

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Old 04-23-2011, 05:24 AM
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I have a G940.

I did not disable centering force completely, cant recall now but I have set it to around 10% in Logitech Control Panel.

I guess have some centering force is realistic.

I did not tested much this patch yet, so cant do a properly report atm.
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Old 04-23-2011, 05:54 AM
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I have a G940.

I did not disable centering force completely, cant recall now but I have set it to around 10% in Logitech Control Panel.

I guess have some centering force is realistic.

I did not tested much this patch yet, so cant do a properly report atm.
Normally FF games emulate own centering Force, like CoD does but sometimes it goes off. i never use Centering Force any FF games not G940 and not G25 wheel either, When i play RoF and i'm standing still at airfield with motor off there is no Centering force allmost at all but when i move and motor is on there is centering force because the airflow. I mean bigger speed bigger centering force, when stalling very little centering force

There is good emulation for speed in CoD with centering force but i mean sometimes it drops off fully, sometimes when i start to fly from airborne, there is centering force and maybe next time when i goto airfield there is no centering force at all. Put it kicks on after some flying?

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Old 04-23-2011, 05:59 AM
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MS FFB2 owner here.

Thanks for releasing this patch but is there a way to turn FFB off for the time being as it's not quite right yet?

The centering force is missing in most Quick missions. It suddenly comes back with a kick randomly after a while. Then sometimes it disappears again. I've had it disappear on me in a 400 Km/hr dive. In some missions it starts with it on.

We also need the ability to make the gun recoil less or turn it off like in IL2 (by replacing with an empty text file) as it's just too much and throws off your aim.
Also the turbulence effect is too strong too, it might be realistic but we are disadvantaged by this.

Sorry to bring this up, I'm happy that you've added it but it needs some tweaking and some on off options in the control panel.

I'd like to feel stall buffeting and stick stiffness due to speed changes. I don't like turbulence and recoil effects, I'd rather be able to turn these off.
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Old 04-23-2011, 06:12 AM
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I have the G940 too. For me its to harsh, meaning kicking me. Itried to turn it off in the conf. ini but it doesne help.

I think there should be a choise to turn FF on/off until it runs on every FF joystick.
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Old 04-23-2011, 06:22 AM
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I have the G940 too. For me its to harsh, meaning kicking me. Itried to turn it off in the conf. ini but it doesne help.

I think there should be a choise to turn FF on/off until it runs on every FF joystick.
Take FF off in Windows.
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Old 04-23-2011, 06:27 AM
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Take FF off in Windows.
Please could you be so kind and tell me were in Windows?
Thanks for helping.
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Old 04-23-2011, 06:26 AM
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I posted this on another thread earlier, hope it helps some of you.

Go to this link http://www.tocaedit.com/IB/index.php...ds&showfile=67

download the file, it's a program called fedit. You can use it to modify each force feedback file to your liking. Make sure you back up the originals

files are located in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\core\FF.

And no you won't get banned for modifying these.

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Old 04-23-2011, 07:53 AM
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I posted this on another thread earlier, hope it helps some of you.

Go to this link http://www.tocaedit.com/IB/index.php...ds&showfile=67

download the file, it's a program called fedit. You can use it to modify each force feedback file to your liking. Make sure you back up the originals

files are located in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\core\FF.

And no you won't get banned for modifying these.

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Nice that those old files still exist! I edited mine in IL2 to remove most of the gun / cannon shaking and the violent random spikes on takeoff and landing.

As said by others here - I am really only interested in the stall buffeting and the stiffening self centering with speed. Those effects at the other hand are a must so it's really nice that they are included now!

I am away on easter vacation so I have not tried the new patch myself - will edit a set of *.ffb files and share them when I get back for the ones that are not into messing with the files themselves. I have a bunch of users of my old IL2 ffb files

And I am impressed with all the stuff that has been squeezed into the patches the last two weeks. How much it must hurt that you where so close when 1C/Ubi pushed the product out on the market! Ubisoft seems to have taken the appropriate action now and they have delayed the US release until it's up at a decent level to avoid the fiasco in Russia/Europe. Why they did not delay the Euro release after the initial response to the 1C Russian release is a mystery...

What I don't understand is why no word has been said by the devs about FF support before this unexpected inclusion in this unexpected and appreciated easter egg? Why not just shut the door on the threads where fan boys like me where getting really pissed about the fact that FF was not in there and no word about if it would be included? Information rules...
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Old 04-23-2011, 06:40 AM
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I'd like to feel stall buffeting and stick stiffness due to speed changes. I don't like turbulence and recoil effects, I'd rather be able to turn these off.[/QUOTE]

so why do you need FFB??
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