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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-22-2011, 05:10 PM
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As long as there is MONEY coming in there is a future for this game. All the whining is not going to make a difference one way or the other about if this sim stays in development......MONEY...... it is all about the MONEY. That is why they released a sim that was in no way ready to fly..........MONEY. When the MONEY drys up so will the game development. So quit whining about treating the developer with kid gloves...
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:42 PM
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We simmers will suffer, and some of us do harp on the devs too much, but that doesn't hurt them, lack of sales from their unfinished game can kill the them - thats not something that we are responsible for.
Yeah but you will be the one bent over with your arms around your ankles...
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:51 PM
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i dont care about what the games sites tells
i really ENJOY the sim from the first day and every patch is like i have a new expansion
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:57 PM
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Yeah but you will be the one bent over with your arms around your ankles...
LOL we'll all be bent over if the game does flop, what a waste of money it would be. But, it wont, as i keep saying the regularity of communication is getting better, people will learn to trust again and stop the naggin.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:01 PM
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When the MONEY drys up so will the game development.
and we have an unfinished released game because of what exactly ? i do not suggest anyones money has run out. but there greed sure has caused the release in the state it has. ubisoft.

ubisoft dont care, they are quite happy to lay ruin here. they seek the 1 game thats capable of generating funds in the billions. and they are more interested in producing that title over and over, year after year with no real technological advancements. Spending money in this realm is simply a futile expereince given what there aspirations are. OM didnt leave by throwing his toys out the pram. he left because of the bastereds at ubisoft laying ruin to everything he stands for and that what we appreciate so much.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:11 PM
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Thats just it, we get it, we got it now, what, 1 gazillion times.
Apparently not.

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you can't then turn around and complain if it doesn't work out for you
I can, and I will, especially as this is the only game I've ever had trouble with from Steam. The publishers knew the sorry state of the game and released it through channels that prevent customer returns. This is probably going to piss some people off.

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If you bought into the new series not knowing that, then you just didn't know what you were buying into
I must have missed the bit on the website that says Maddox Games are allowed to release shoddy half-arsed products w/o comeback. Can you point me to the link? I mean if it doesn't exist then new customers who aren't aware of a glorious 10 year legacy of releasing broken games might be concerned. This is probably going to piss some people off.

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complaining about the initial release state of the game, is pointless and disrespectful and inconsiderate, and is probably going to piss some people off.
Having a game that runs like it's on a 286 when you have a PC far in advance of recommended system specs may, just perchance, piss some people off. Rumours that the real beta testers were ignored may also lead to some people being pissed off. Gaming is a business, Maddox Games are not personal friends and have wittingly or unwittingly pulled a bait-and-switch on their loyal customers. I think this may count as 'disrespectful', possibly even 'inconsiderate'. When the bad reviews and bad rep spread over the internet it may even fall into the category of 'pointless'.

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Having the game continually and relentlessly represented as a totally unplayable mess with no redeeming features, is probably going to piss some people off.
There seems to be a not insignificant number of people who share that experience, and swatting their concerns away with some blithe BS about how some other game from a million years ago needed a patch too is probably going to piss those people off.

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when two people buy the same game and one thinks it's the best thing ever and one thinks it's the worst thing ever, which person would you rather hear from?
The latter, they're probably nearer the mark and in this case are proving helpful to a lot of people who've spared themselves the bother of fighting Oleg's army of fawning morons...
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:27 PM
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Salute

If you haven't seen them already, the reviews in German gaming magazines, on Gamespot and PC Gamer have panned the game.

Maybe those reviews were deserved, but the fact is, if this game goes under, no one is going to suffer but us flight simmers.

All those posters on these boards who I see whining and complaining better understand something:

If this game goes under, you will have nothing to do but whine. No game, no development, NOTHING.

The only smart thing to do at this point is to support the developers, give them POSITIVE feedback on issues.

Don't harp on issues which have been mentioned a hundred times, there is no point.

Unless you WANT the game to fail.

I personally have bought a copy online, and will be buying another hard copy in the stores when it arrives.

DO NOT KID YOURSELF. THIS GAME IS ON THE EDGE.
What a goofball.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:36 PM
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Its upto the devs to take from this thread what they want. i believe they know were not stupid by now. and that we are all aware of the problems. this is not 1C's fault folks. when you read comments that ubsioft brought this to our software and killed it and theres nothing we can do about it. it should tell you who is at fault here. its honestly not 1C , as luthier has said today hes running around with his hair on fire. i feel for them at 1C i really do my heart goes out to them.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:42 PM
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Apparently not.

Now Les:



I can, and I will, especially as this is the only game I've ever had trouble with from Steam. The publishers knew the sorry state of the game and released it through channels that prevent customer returns. This is probably going to piss some people off.



I must have missed the bit on the website that says Maddox Games are allowed to release shoddy half-arsed products w/o comeback. Can you point me to the link? I mean if it doesn't exist then new customers who aren't aware of a glorious 10 year legacy of releasing broken games might be concerned. This is probably going to piss some people off.



Having a game that runs like it's on a 286 when you have a PC far in advance of recommended system specs may, just perchance, piss some people off. Rumours that the real beta testers were ignored may also lead to some people being pissed off. Gaming is a business, Maddox Games are not personal friends and have wittingly or unwittingly pulled a bait-and-switch on their loyal customers. I think this may count as 'disrespectful', possibly even 'inconsiderate'. When the bad reviews and bad rep spread over the internet it may even fall into the category of 'pointless'.



There seems to be a not insignificant number of people who share that experience, and swatting their concerns away with some blithe BS about how some other game from a million years ago needed a patch too is probably going to piss those people off.



The latter, they're probably nearer the mark and in this case are proving helpful to a lot of people who've spared themselves the bother of fighting Oleg's army of fawning morons...
Epic, harsh, but Epic
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:54 PM
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The latter, they're probably nearer the mark and in this case are proving helpful to a lot of people who've spared themselves the bother of fighting Oleg's army of fawning morons...
I've read a lot of the bitching whine-fests, and they don't seem to be very helpful. The game clearly has some problems. I get it. But, someone whining about how poorly coded it is does not seem particularly helpful to me. How does it help you?
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