Things like this is suffering for this great game.

[Bellator]

Originally Posted by roptor90

So what`s your problem then ? Type normal arguments please and not in "IQ85" style like:

Judging from your manner of constructing a case I wouldn't be talking about IQ's if I were you.

Point is that the 90mm T15E3 would not penetrate the KT's lower front hull at anything but REALLY close range, and the 122mm D25T was completely unable to penetrate it at any range.

[Bellator]

Originally Posted by roptor90

Define "Really close range" please.

Well considering the poor performance of APCR versus sloped armour, it would probably be at around 300 meters. So it would be much better to shoot at the front turret then, considering the excellent performance of APCR versus non angled armour.

Originally Posted by roptor90

"122mm D25T was completely unable to penetrate it at any range" Yes ? It sounds like Tiger II was invulnerable to me...

From the front to the 122mm D25T, yes it was invulnerable. Unless ofcourse you shoot at it 200 times until the whole thing comes apart as at Kubinka.

[roptor90]

Ok Bellator your right, its those ~350 meters after i did a lot of research at this pages:

http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/90...ion/index.html
http://www.panzerworld.net/armourcalculator

I was really confused by wikipedia ( possibly propaganda or fake info with those "2400" meters )

But in all cases, you can not penetrate that lower hull at all, because its bugged as wiki site...

BTW this game needs a really big patch about armor/armor penetration corrections though.

But in extream battle conditions where the slope angle was negated with ground/terain inequality it could be far more meters not just 350m... That slope did great work on that final armor value as well...

There are many factors which gives no sence at all...


Like this for example:

Panther`s 80mm upper hull plate @ 55 degrees vertical can be penetrated from 800 yards...
60mm!!! lower hull plate @55 degrees vertical only from 600 yards WTF ???

[roptor90]

Same chassis, same story different look...

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59...A420D26E463B1/

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59...E4A8605090B4A/

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/panzerj...tm#jagdpanther

[roptor90]

3AD's "Super Pershing" vs. Germany's "King Tiger"
WWII's two most powerful tanks meet in a historic encounter...

http://www.3ad.com/history/news/super.pershing.1.htm

[kane1]

Originally Posted by roptor90

3AD's "Super Pershing" vs. Germany's "King Tiger"
WWII's two most powerful tanks meet in a historic encounter...

http://www.3ad.com/history/news/super.pershing.1.htm

That was cool! Thanks.