Cliffs of Dover Is The Best. But Some Of You Don't Appreciate It.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

Can you fly with 50-100 aircraft over london with mid range graphics settings and no stuttering/fps over 25? If not then you are not telling the truth.

Haven't tried that yet, only have tried the plain jane missions, but the plain jane missions over London have been without any issues, at my top settings, even when I increased the number of aircraft. My GTX-570 is overclocked. (I plan on adding a second GTX-570 when SLI is enabled)

If you are having a problem with your setup, you are doing something wrong. (unless you haven't overclocked that 980x, which can easily go 4.5 ghz without liquid cooling by the way)

In any case, performance anxiety aside, I didn't expect to see full scale 200 plane battles over London in the initial release. We didn't see that kind of thing with the original IL-2, even at the late stages of IL-2 1946 you couldn't fight a 'Battle of Berlin' with two hundred plane raids, and this game is far more complex and demanding. I am encouraged that multicore support can be implimented, it would suggest to me that there is a lot of headroom to improve the capabilities of this engine, and I believe we will be fighting large battles over London in a year or two.

I am hoping this game is in for the long haul, like IL-2, if you guys would be realistic and stop with the continually whining and complaining and think a bit into the future, you might realize there is a LOT of potential available, and we have a lot of good things to look forward too.

Unless the whiners drown out the good responses and the games sales suffer and it ends up being cancelled as far as any further development is concerned...

Now, THAT would be something worth crying about.

What's we're seeing now is a bunch of 40 year old drama queens blowing off steam from their dayjobs.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

Haven't tried that yet, only have tried the plain jane missions, but the plain jane missions over London have been without any issues, at my top settings, even when I increased the number of aircraft. My GTX-570 is overclocked. (I plan on adding a second GTX-570 when SLI is enabled)

If you are having a problem with your setup, you are doing something wrong. (unless you haven't overclocked that 980x, which can easily go 4.5 ghz without liquid cooling by the way)

In any case, performance anxiety aside, I didn't expect to see full scale 200 plane battles over London in the initial release. We didn't see that kind of thing with the original IL-2, even at the late stages of IL-2 1946 you couldn't fight a 'Battle of Berlin' with two hundred plane raids, and this game is far more complex and demanding. I am encouraged that multicore support can be implimented, it would suggest to me that there is a lot of headroom to improve the capabilities of this engine, and I believe we will be fighting large battles over London in a year or two.

I am hoping this game is in for the long haul, like IL-2, if you guys would be realistic and stop with the continually whining and complaining and think a bit into the future, you might realize there is a LOT of potential available, and we have a lot of good things to look forward too.

Unless the whiners drown out the good responses and the games sales suffer and it ends up being cancelled as far as any further development is concerned...

Now, THAT would be something worth crying about.

What's we're seeing now is a bunch of 40 year old drama queens blowing off steam from their dayjobs.

I dont have the game yet, but I havent seen any videos of people flying over london with good settings and no lag, let alone planes in combat. You have fraps?

[Ibis]

"Everything seems new and not good enough to those too young to remember the old and too ignorant of Il2 history to have faith about it." – Not Thomas Sowell

[Winger]

Originally Posted by recoilfx

I appreciate Cliffs of Dover, but I won't give a free pass on the devs for releasing an alpha game. I am sure you think CloD is the best, but you are super minority here.

This kind of fanboy post is just as annoying as end of the world hater posts.

I dont think hes minority. Cod Had and still has problems. But its also absolutely great. I can just repeat. Its not the first and will not be the last game that got released with loads of issues and still is a great game. Just like i.e. ROF. Was also bugged to hell and back at release. Look at it now. And for that matter i must really say that COD is improving MUCH faster than ROF did after its relase.

Winger

[robtek]

He definitively isn't the minority!
He belongs imho to the quiet majority of more "mature" forum members who have the patience and know from past experience what to expect from OM.
This sim isn't ready, yet.
But it will be -> the future is bright.
Even with all the bugs, for me this sim has degraded IL2-1946 to arcade, it is just no fun anymore.
I've tried RoF and have almost all planes, really no fun for me! Only furballs online -> not my kind of flying.
And jets, i can really do without them, the last interesting scenario was vietnam and there is no actual sim for those planes.

[patrat1]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

I dont have the game yet, but I havent seen any videos of people flying over london with good settings and no lag, let alone planes in combat. You have fraps?

london bomber intercept mission. all settings high, except buildings which are set to very high and unlimited. everything on except ssao. gpu set to quality.

heres my fraps score.

Frames, Time , Min, Max, Avg
20164, 431998, 25, 92, 46.676

like buzzsaw im running a i5 2500k with a gtx 570 OC. the i5 is OC to 4.5ghz.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK

Hi all,

I'm not a fanboy. I speak my mind.

Would you have preferred that this sim had not been released?

Such negative replies. You can't see the piers? Well,well, my my! End of civilisation as we know it.

Look at the positives and to the future. And if you think you can produce something better...go ahead and do it.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

+1!

[FG28_Kodiak]

The game was published too early, but the alternative was it will never be published, i think. So we have a game with the potential to become the greatest flightsim in history.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

I dont have the game yet, but I havent seen any videos of people flying over london with good settings and no lag, let alone planes in combat. You have fraps?

You know Helicon, I am not interested in wasting my time posting a track and/or screenshots, I'm too busy building missions and having fun. (currently building a series of missions for a RAF Squadron based in the Portsmouth area as it defends the docks etc.) Choose to believe what I am saying or not, either way it doesn't concern me. It seems to me you and your ilk are more concerned with NOT having fun, and I refuse to indulge you and ruin my own good time.

[Blue Scorpion]

Originally Posted by Zoom2136

Amen brother!!!

As Chivas said constructive critisim is a great thing, just pilling in the negative comments helps nothing. We all know that Oleg as a veru good reputation. He will deliver. They propbably just needed the cash to do so.

Except Oleg has nothing to do with this anymore, and what's more, people so conveniently forget, when IL2 was first released it was the only title in their stable, it was their only bread and butter, so they continued to work and polish with Oleg driving for perfection.

That is no longer the case, they have grown, and have many projects now, all deserving attention, and the original driving force has left the building along with Elvis. There are no guarantees whatsoever this title will get the same level or longevity of attention as IL2 , indeed there are many factors against that happening now.

People keep talking, banging on and on, saying it will be great in a year, or two; but in truth, they do not have a damn clue what level of support this title is likely to get. Moreover, the incessant droning about its rosy future, is just as annoying as those complaining, because the product as it stands TODAY is a broken mess, and Luthier and co have our money in their pockets now, today, not two years from now.

Everyone posting about how grand it will all be when fixed and branding everyone who disagrees is a "hater" or "troll" and claiming they should not post, should take a long hard look in that mirror. You are expressing an opinion, but would deny others the right to express theirs, simply because they disagree with you; and that my friends, makes you one and all, a bunch of hypocrites'; a beast, far worse than those who quite rightly complain about something they have paid for not working as advertised.