Heinkels of steel?

[jimbop]

Nothing wrong with the guns, just have to learn how to use them! All my flying for the last few days has been practice against bombers. With the ammo loadout described in the above post set at 150 you can knock anything out of the sky with the rotol.

Even sitting on six of a Heinkel or Dornier (when you've got the gunner) works well if you land enough hits. I've ripped the entire tail off several times and getting the elevator is also good news.

[Fredfetish]

Jip, if I don't fly straight into the 111's straight on (dope), I can usually take out about 3 before my ammo runs out with the above mentioned loadout.
When chasing 111's, they aren't really that slow, so I can understand getting stuck behind their sixes. I usually try to start my attack from a bit above, but I rarely get a fatal hit in the few seconds until I'm right behind the bomber. In that case, wait till you are at your convergence setting (at 150m I can start to see the components I want to hit) away and try to aim for the engines in the wings (which is not all that easy from straight behind.... the tail is somewhat in the way). Some might hit the aileron and some might hit the fuel tank though, so it’s a good area to aim. Try not to fire blindly(usually into the tail) if you get too close, rather wait till you're slow enough to maintain the 150m distance or go around for a second pass). I also just read in the IL 46 plane guide that the plane should be able to fly with only one engine operational, so you’ll have to target both theoretically. Try to use your sidewinders only if need be.