OT: a fair few people have played IL2 since the beginning...

[Bewolf]

What, this is the Cliffs of Dover forums combat sim remembrance thread and nobody posted this so far?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpv7dPTxLj0

This is what I started with. The circle comes to a close

[AndyJWest]

Pah! Call this nostalgia? I've still got my first air combat sims - and the computer to play them on (Amstrad CPC 464) - from the mid 1980s:

Fighter Pilot (1985)from Digital Integration (1985). F-15 sim.
Tomahawk (1986) also from Digital Integration. AH-64 sim.

They both worked (or at least loaded) when I tried a year or so back. If I get the chance, I'll try them out again, and take some photos.

From the Fighter Pilot instruction leaflet:

← - Joystick LEFT
↓ - Joystick BACK
↑ - Joystick FORWARD
→ - Joystick RIGHT
Z - RUDDER LEFT
X - RUDDER RIGHT

Q - Increase THRUST
A - Decrease THRUST
W - Flaps UP
S - Flaps DOWN
U - Undercarriage UP and DOWN
B - Brakes ON
N - Next Beacon
M - Map
F - ILS/Flight Computer
<Space> GUNS (active only in Combat mode)
H - Hold
J - Release
<ESC> To return to menu

No complex engine management in those days...

[Trouble4u]

My favorite sim of all time was Pacific Air War because not only did you get to fly the missions, you also controled the fleet.

PAW/Gold
Aces over Europe
Red Baron, RBII and 3d
EAW
Jane WWII fighter
MS Combat sim II and 3
IL-2, Pacific Fighter, Forgotten Battles and 1946
Rise of Flight

Still waiting for Cliffs of Dover

[choctaw111]

Il2 has come a long way since the demo and was light years ahead of anything else at that time.
I don't recall the flight sim you are talking about but I started on my Commodore 64 with original combat flight simulator for MSFS. You know, the one that had the screen refresh after about every second or so
I think I must have bought just about every single combat flight sim since then.
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe was great for 1990!
There were just so many that I had a great time with.
Since Il2 was introduced I have enjoyed this one by far the most.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Pah! Call this nostalgia? I've still got my first air combat sims - and the computer to play them on (Amstrad CPC 464) - from the mid 1980s:

Fighter Pilot (1985)from Digital Integration (1985). F-15 sim.
Tomahawk (1986) also from Digital Integration. AH-64 sim.

They both worked (or at least loaded) when I tried a year or so back. If I get the chance, I'll try them out again, and take some photos.

From the Fighter Pilot instruction leaflet:



No complex engine management in those days...

+1 Fighter pilot was the shit Still have my old Spectrum and fired it up some year ago and played Fighter Pilot. I think it had about 4 fps in average but with those awesome graphics people understood. Not a single wining was heard in the reviews about that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09cvB6ywiFA

I remember persuading my dad spending $200 on the 32k upgrade from 16k to 48k on my spectrum to get games like this running You get a bit more memory for that cash theese days

EDIT: And no it's not me doing that crappy landing way low for most of the final approach Found it on youtube...

[Pyrres]

My first ever games were flight sims so I have so many fond memories of 90´s simulators like Wings of glory, F14 Fleet defender, 1942 Pasific airwar etc. After those it was MS Flight simulator 98 and 2000, B17 the mighty eight, F16 something and F29 Mig Fulcrum, Flight unlimited, MS Combat flight sim, the original IL2 and all the expansions until v4.09. I must have forgotten some of the sims I played, but man I had some fun with those games. Plus my dad had to burn much much money to get me the computers to run those games in the 90´s. I rememeber how it was always a new this or that to run the games properly and the cursing of the money being wasted . Thankfully now I can buy my own computers and don´t have to worry about how much money I waste on those stupid games

[Wandalen]

This was my first flight in a "computer" Blue Max on C-64
Think i lost some houers of my childhood on this game... memories.. memories

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5EtR79G99Y

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[choctaw111]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

What, this is the Cliffs of Dover forums combat sim remembrance thread and nobody posted this so far?

This is what I started with. The circle comes to a close

TFH was very good and I enjoyed countless hours on the Amiga...with 1 Meg of ram...a big deal back then.

[AndyJWest]

...the Amiga...with 1 Meg of ram...a big deal back then...

Pah! Another mere newcomer, who doesn't know what real computers were like. The first computer I ever actually got to touch: Acorn Atom "The 12 KB of RAM was divided between 5 KB available for programs, 1 KB for the page zero and 6 KB for the high resolution graphics". The first computer I programmed was a BBC Micro, with an astonishing 32 Kb of RAM...

[mcler002]

I'm so glad i can call myself a rookie, on IL2, now... seems like there is alot of old timers playing this game and have been playing air combat sims for some time

Please feel free to clip me around the head...

XD