More realistic machine gun tracers?

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

..I give up..

Ahhhhh, come on ! So soon ?

By the way...It is true though that watching the video with "corrected" gamma
gives a overall much more photorealistic impression. It is kind of in between COD's original "overexposed" and "overdone" WOP...Nice one...

Salute !

[Bryan21cag]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

uh and if you guys want to, I can post you quality videos where tracers are as bright as a Xmas tree.. but you know what? Use the SEARCH button and look at them yourself, I'm tired of this endless crap...

Moderators can you PLEASE do something about this?!?!?!

lol why so angry at digital words on a screen sir?

And correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the same people (yourself included) be just as angry if some poor chap went and resurrected a very old thread? Im sure they would hear something like this

"OH for *&^%& sake this topic has been dead a long time quit bringing up %^$% that has already been discussed"........ or something to that effect

its almost as if you are trying to forbid anyone else who may not have had a chance to comment on old threads the chance to discuss the topics there related to because you have already said your peace...... not very sporting

anyway i still don't see anything wrong with everyone having there own opinion about things that they may even know something about.

PS the video you posted with the adjusted gamma looked great.........but...... the tracers still look too fat

Cheers

[Bryan21cag]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

oh simple, because:

1) it is ANNOYING.
2) it is ANNOYING.
3) it gives no fruitful information, but just moves back down more important topics than this senseless whine.
4) uh have I mentioned that it is ANNOYING?

does anyone else think its hilarious that every time he posts in here he personally adds to his number 3 reason for hating this post?

just an observation please don't point your nerd rage at me as only one of our blood pressures will be effected and i assure you it wont be mine sir

You seem like such a pleasant person that i wouldn't want you to send your self to an early demise over video game tracers being discussed again

[gonk]

What is the big deal... You have made a lot of the other properties of the game selectable between realistic/game... Why not tracers ? Make a lot of the public happy for the people who like the Hollywood-ised style of tracer... And the ones that don't...they are already happy..

[ChrisDNT]

So, if I've understood all this discussion well, the "Hollywood tracers" are less big, less gloomy, less fat than the "real-life" laser tracers

First time I see something coming from "Hollywood" in a more sober way than the "reality"

Originally Posted by Bryan21cag

lol why so angry at digital words on a screen sir?

And correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the same people (yourself included) be just as angry if some poor chap went and resurrected a very old thread? Im sure they would hear something like this

"OH for *&^%& sake this topic has been dead a long time quit bringing up %^$% that has already been discussed"........ or something to that effect

its almost as if you are trying to forbid anyone else who may not have had a chance to comment on old threads the chance to discuss the topics there related to because you have already said your peace...... not very sporting

anyway i still don't see anything wrong with everyone having there own opinion about things that they may even know something about.

PS the video you posted with the adjusted gamma looked great.........but...... the tracers still look too fat

Cheers

Dear Bryan,

have you ever heard of the saying "None so blind as those who will not see"?
If it has been discussed over and over again, if the community and developers have reached a conclusion, why then insisting for the sake of it, without even giving a valid reason for your conclusions? It's a matter of tone and netiquette. You can resuscitate a dead thread only if it's worth it, but if you lot actually managed to READ the old thread, you would have seen that hey, they're gonna do something about it! Uh and another thing, the idiotic teenager assumptions a la "hey it's too fat cos I've seen it in a Hollywood movie" should be enough to have you banned out of here. I have grown really intolerant after years of forum use and moderation, but seems like the mother of Trolls is always pregnant..

I hope my reply wasn't too offensive or aggressive..

Originally Posted by Bryan21cag

does anyone else think its hilarious that every time he posts in here he personally adds to his number 3 reason for hating this post?

just an observation please don't point your nerd rage at me as only one of our blood pressures will be effected and i assure you it wont be mine sir

You seem like such a pleasant person that i wouldn't want you to send your self to an early demise over video game tracers being discussed again

..I would read my other rather informative posts before attempting any humour at my persona..

[Bryan21cag]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

Dear Bryan,

have you ever heard of the saying "None so blind as those who will not see"?
If it has been discussed over and over again, if the community and developers have reached a conclusion, why then insisting for the sake of it, without even giving a valid reason for your conclusions? It's a matter of tone and netiquette. You can resuscitate a dead thread only if it's worth it, but if you lot actually managed to READ the old thread, you would have seen that hey, they're gonna do something about it! Uh and another thing, the idiotic teenager assumptions a la "hey it's too fat cos I've seen it in a Hollywood movie" should be enough to have you banned out of here. I have grown really intolerant after years of forum use and moderation, but seems like the mother of Trolls is always pregnant..

I hope my reply wasn't too offensive or aggressive..

no but i have hear the one that goes "none so hungry as those who will not eat" does that count?...another joke that you probably wont find funny either but i had to try

since its quite obvious that you didn't read a single post of mine carefully on this topic I wont take any offense what so ever my friend

If you were to read them, you would find that I never said i thought they were too fat because i saw it in a Hollywood movie once...... in fact i said i thought they were too fat because i have seen many a tracer from many a different kind of ammunition over my 8 years in the military and that is why I thought they looked too fat to me

Now i will concede that I wasn't present in the cockpit of any of these fighters during 1939-1945 and so cannot make a direct comparison but then neither were the developers.

any way all I have been trying to say this whole time is that there is still nothing wrong with continuing to discuss a topic even after the verdict has been read. History shows us that many an idea of both great and small importance has been changed years after the fact for just that reason. People who were passionate about it kept talking about it and some things were changed and some were not.

If you don't not think this topic is worth discussing any more well then you are entitled to think that. You are also entitled to express that I do not believe that you should be entitled to silence others because you personally are finished speaking about it. And the fact that this thread remains, possibly means that the mods agree.

as for my humor at your expense well I cant help but continue to find a direct contrast with your desire to see this thread die, and your inability to not post inside of the thread there by re distributing it to the very top of the threads list...... and there by making it more accessible to those who haven't seen it yet, allowing them to voice their own opinion. I just find this funny

But as with most forms of art humor is very subjective and it doesn't surprise me that you did not find it funny

oh and I am glad it sounds like you have calmed down a bit in your tone it will only work to lessen the stress on the old ticker
cheers

no but i have hear the one that goes none so hungry as those who will not eat...

[JG14_Jagr]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

you're lucky I'm not one, you'd be outta here in no time. As a forum member I have the right to express my opinion, and if you READ what I posted you might actually find the answers to your fears..

We talk on FACTS and EXPERIENCE, whilst you don't follow the forum rules (i.e. not looking for already discussed threads BEFORE posting new ones) and above all you have NO idea of what you're talking about. It must be really sad to be you buddy..

Well, I've fired thousands of tracers in my life, and I can say from experience that the visual effect in game is not nearly as accurate as it could be.. The tracers from the .303's appear to be far larger in diameter than it should appear. The visual effect of real tracers has them appearing longer up close going very fast then they appear to get smaller and slower (though they are just as fast, its aperspective issue) as they get further away

The in game tracers need a lot of work to resemble real ones.

[dali]

I've been shooting with browning MG from an aircraft to ground targets. the guns were situated in the nose of an airplane, meaning that I was also flying the airplane. What rarely anybody understands and realizes here is the fact that aperture of an eye absolutely dosn't match the one of the camera. No matter what camera, video or photo. or should I say the other way arround, because there is no camera which could match the eye.

so in ANY camera shot you can see and will se the "laser" tracers, only the length depends on the camera settings (i.e. expo time and/or aperture) and lighting conditions. With naked eye you just see dots traveling towards the target.