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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-11-2011, 06:20 AM
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This is actually a simulation, not simulator. I also say "Thanks", but the fact and reality is that this is not finished product, and as such, we the end users shouldn't do the optimizations ourselves with already paid "finished" product.

In any case, saying "thanks" for something that you have paid, and what doesn't do the job for which you have paid it, is pure nonsense.

Imagine that you have bought car and paid a full price, but you have to mount engine in it by yourself.

Sane attitude would be "OK, you didn't get the time to finish it, I understand that, but I gave you the money, so hurry, and give me my finished and polished product"
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thanks to sell me an unfinished, unplayable simulator like as an finished product...
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:27 AM
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the fact and reality is that this is not finished product, and as such, we the end users shouldn't do the optimizations ourselves with already paid "finished" product.
When you're at the cutting edge of a simulator like this things are not so easy.

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In any case, saying "thanks" for something that you have paid, and what doesn't do the job for which you have paid it, is pure nonsense.

Imagine that you have bought car and paid a full price, but you have to mount engine in it by yourself.
If there was a new revolutionairy car that was better than anything else ever made (but the same price), I'd have no problem having to put the engine in. And likewise, if this game was the same as every other flight sim on the market I wouldn't bother with it if it wasn't all running smoothly. But it isn't. There are no other flight sims available today with the potential of this one (and it's not only potential, it runs pretty well for me now).
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:41 AM
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I agree with the OP, (I think).

Take a look at the screenshots. I never thought it would be possible to have this level of detail and realism (sky, sea, landscape and A/C) in what people refer to as a 'game'.
When you're 'flying', the feeling of 'being there' is incredible, even with the current frame rate/stutter issues. I've found that I now have to fly with the canopy open all the time for an even better view of the realism.
All it needs is some scratch n sniff cards with exhaust fumes, cordite and grass smells.

And people build kit cars all the time. They buy those too, don't they? And provide their own engine.

Thanks 1c Maddox!
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:55 AM
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thanks!

(don't expect me to argue with idiots)
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:09 AM
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I bought it, installed it and are now awaiting the guys in the tower to fix the bugs and come up with a solution to whatever is the reason it won't run smooth. In the mean time I refine my patiense and give the towerguys a big hand for even doing what they are doing in the first place. I'm sure they are put under a tremendous strain from the whitecollars running the excellsheets...

Sooner or later this game will take me to the skies.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:20 AM
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I bought it, installed it and are now awaiting the guys in the tower to fix the bugs and come up with a solution to whatever is the reason it won't run smooth. In the mean time I refine my patiense and give the towerguys a big hand for even doing what they are doing in the first place. I'm sure they are put under a tremendous strain from the whitecollars running the excellsheets...

Sooner or later this game will take me to the skies.
If Mr, is absolutely right, we all have to have patience... nothing more...
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:34 AM
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If Mr, is absolutely right, we all have to have patience... nothing more...
If you want to thank even more - buy few more copies of CLOD, or send money directly to Oleg's bank account...

But reasonable man can see the quality of CLOD - even here... You can see that discussions here are not about "flying" or "immersion", but mostly about what position and opinion take and defend ...

You can start ten thousand more WE-LOVE-YOU, but it will not change the reality which is quite unpleasant...

I just don't understand why Oleg or Luthier didn't start some kind of Maddox Game fundraising or charity fund - anyone could send them any amount of their money to support this game developer and let them develop it even seven more years... Everyone here would by a t-shirt with Oleg's moustache on it for 300 bucks...
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Sooner or later this game will take me to the skies.
Hey McQ, no wonder you can't get it to run, it's not meant to work on the PS3!



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I give a big thanks to kegety for this solution of performance issues: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3265101
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I'm thankful because the flight sim market has another great addition to it's ranks. Seriously, games in this genre (a very niche genre) are not falling out of the sky.

I'm sure it would be a lot easier for the development team to create a fps or racing game and slap it onto a console. Those games are a dime a dozen and the sales potential is huge.

But no, they spend several years creating a bloody good flight sim and the Il-2 legacy lives on...giving joy to us all. Yes it's had a rocky start but things are starting to look good.

Onwards and upwards.
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