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The fact the game has the Spit IA with a two speed prop is completely in error. Yes, they INITIALLY came from the factory with the two speed prop, but this was changed starting in late June 1940 on orders from Fighter Command's Hugh Dowding. "Spitfire: The History" by Eric B Morgan and Edward Shacklady is one of the most well respected sources for information on the Spitfire. The facts are detailed clearly in the chapter on the Spit I: EDIT: Unfortunately some anonymous person has complained to Image Shack that the images I posted were copyright, and they have been removed. I wonder who might be interested in censoring information which shows there should be an improvement in Spitfire performance... ![]() To quote from the book: Quote:
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() By the way, Kurfurst has already admitted he owns this book, yet he goes on about how the two speed props are appropriate... Last edited by *Buzzsaw*; 04-11-2011 at 02:09 AM. |
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Did they actually fly combat missions with the two speed prop?
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The problem is that the differencews between a late model MkI and an MkII are so minor that most of use wouldn't see the difference.
By putting in an earlier model MkI it give mission designers more flexibility when it comes to Phoney war/Dunkirk senarios. I bet there at least a couple of 109 models that were left out that are sorely missed! Cheers |
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2) There is a definite difference between a late Spit I and Spit II. 3) Yes there are a couple of 109 models left out, but those missing models were not present in anywhere near the numbers of the British aircraft which are mismodelled in the game. All of the Spitfires and Hurricanes in No. 10, 11 and 12 Groups were using 100 octane, and all the Spitfires had been re-equipped with constant speed props. That is basically the entire fleet of aircraft which fought the Battle. In the game we don't have a single Spitfire which is running at correct performance levels. |
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Looking at the charts of similarly equiped MkI and MkIIs there are differences but in my opinion they are quite minor.
The following link shows a comparison between a late model MkIa and a MkIIa http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-II.html Cheers Last edited by Skoshi Tiger; 04-10-2011 at 07:45 AM. |
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So, having in mind that it is a videogame, not a documentary, it maybe requires some balance between forces that are not exactly historic. |
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Yes. before the Battle of Britain. First kills scored by Spits were on Oct. 16th 1939, when two Heinkel III's were shot down over the Firth of Forth in Scotland. Those Spits were two pitch versions. And there were quite a few Spits in combat over Dunkirk in late May and early June. Not clear if those were +12 boost versions, but certainly it was likely they were equipped with two pitch props.
In any case, the Spit I can stay as a two pitch version, with max. +6 boost for those who want to do an early version. The Spit IA should be upgraded with both a constant speed prop and +12 boost. Last edited by *Buzzsaw*; 04-10-2011 at 09:31 AM. |
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Great extract thanks |
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I agree - as does other documentation I've seen that shaped my understanding, i.e. various unit histories, biographies and official Operations Record Books that can be found on-line.
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