Beta Patch-Good/Bad. All discussions here please.

[Strike]

Originally Posted by Hveding

6-8 years, is that not more than needed to this game ?
Would say that they are slow... The avarge time for making a BIG game is...

Dude, you're right.. a GAME takes 2-4 years. A simulator is like a growing tree, its organic and develops constantly. I'm glad they even tried to get a patch out within a week of release! BTW it says beta, perhaps the feedback we give them will tell them what they need to fix it 'better'

[hoarmurath]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

You're completely missing the spirit of that idiom, but nevermind that.

Compare all you like, but do it intelligently. What do you know about the production of CoD vs. other major titles? What was CoD's production budget? What were the staffing levels at Maddox Games? How many testers did they employ? What kind of support were they given by third party companies (nVidia, AMD, Microsoft, Valve, etc.)?

If you're comparing apples and oranges and you say "I like apples better" you don't expect God to patch the oranges until they're just as good, do you? Nope, you decide you're just not that into oranges and you leave them alone.

So, all you are doing here is finding them excuses for releasing a game in an unfinished, unplayable state.

It doesn't change anything to the fact that the game is unfinished and unplayable.

[jibo]

you're a simmer right ?
for how long time did you play il2 ?
for how long time will play CoD when it'll will be fixed ?

so please don't talk about "money" while other are working 10h/day to make this possible

[PVT_Shepperd]

I had a short testing today in dogfight. I didnt look for fps but it definetly ran much smoother than before.

[Pantherz]

Haters gonna hate

[addman]

Originally Posted by Pantherz

Haters gonna hate

True dat! Also, it's a B.E.T.A BEEEEETA patch and still the flame brigade mobilizes. It's like ADHD has become some kind of epidemic, sigh....

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by hoarmurath

So, all you are doing here is finding them excuses for releasing a game in an unfinished, unplayable state.

It doesn't change anything to the fact that the game is unfinished and unplayable.

I'm not giving anyone excuses.

I'm upset that the game trailers suggested that the game was running perfectly when it was in reality not doing so. But I'm not so out of touch that I think they should have released a trailer full of bugs to be completely honest with people about the current state of the game.

Luthier and Oleg have said, I believe, that they needed to push the game out of the door or it might not have been released at all. This suggests to me that the money for this project was drying up. So I understand what they did. I might be disappointed, but considering how long we've waited for the game, I'd rather wait a year for it to become playable than not have it at all.

I bought the game as soon as it was available to me on Steam. I've pre-purchased other games. I've pre-purchased plenty of games that ended up needing SIGNIFICANT patching to fix issues on lauch. It's a roll of the dice, pre-purchasing. There's no data to go on except advertising that is naturally going to be biased.

I'll be as disappointed as anyone if the game runs poorly on my machine, but I don't think I'm going to start sending the company nasty emails or post angry forum messages scolding them. Buying the game was my choice. No one forced me to do it.

[avioni]

Originally Posted by addman

True dat! Also, it's a B.E.T.A BEEEEETA patch and still the flame brigade mobilizes. It's like ADHD has become some kind of epidemic, sigh....

this is exactly what shouldn't be happening. getting beta patch releases this says it all about the condition the game was released in.

hey if the game trailers showed how the game really plays and looks and the game description on the place you buy it(box,steam or whatever) mentions that the game is not fully playable that it is still in need of patches, owners must wait till patches fix the game to play it ect... ect...

then i would be 100% agreeing with you guys.

but when you watch the trailers you see perfect smooth game with visually stunning visuals and nowhere in the box or steam or whatever it mentions anything about game being in BETA form. then my friend this is a dissrespect to the people who buy it.


edit: wolverine i just read your post.

I bought the game as soon as it was available to me on Steam. I've pre-purchased other games. I've pre-purchased plenty of games that ended up needing SIGNIFICANT patching to fix issues on lauch. It's a roll of the dice, pre-purchasing. There's no data to go on except advertising that is naturally going to be biased.

I'll be as disappointed as anyone if the game runs poorly on my machine, but I don't think I'm going to start sending the company nasty emails or post angry forum messages scolding them. Buying the game was my choice. No one forced me to do it.

yes other games may have and do have launch issues but nothing like this. the issues games commonly have are minor bugs that are patched in short time with some exceptions.
buying the game was your choice but you made this choice because you expected a good sim like the IL-2 before this.

in the end this will only affect them, I am not a hardcore plane sim gamer, I consider myself a hardcore sim racing gamer and i tought having a plane sim would be nice so consider me a casual gamer for this type of sim and after this experiense any casual gamer will look away from either the genre or the company. next time I will not buy it until it is for $5 dollars on steam fully patched and perfectly working.

[bongodriver]

one might also assume that Ubisoft would have been the major obstruction in any attempt to release COD as a 'beta', perhaps it worked well for eagle dynamics who only make flight sims.

[MadTommy]

Patch is a step back for me. Improved fps but now i have stuttering i did not have before. 10 - 15 fps increase.. but lots of stuttering. Shame.