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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-05-2011, 01:03 PM
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Hi,

we do not know the real reason yet, but I am personally really affraid, that this might be a legal issue and that Suchoj asked OM to remove Su26.

Su26 family of aircraft is still in production and I can imagine Olegs virtual model of this type being so perfect (do you remember Luthier metioning for example that the COD engines simulation is simulation within simulation?), that someone at Suchoj company might consider that there is a lot of sensitive data inside, being released to public (well encoded, but still ...).

I hope that this is only construction of my vivid imagination and that I am completely, utterly wrong.. .

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Old 04-05-2011, 01:07 PM
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My guess is, that it was removed, because anyone enough skilled would find out there are serious flaws in the flight model... - just my opinion, don't jump on me...

Btw... if they will go the way of ROF, it is their sudden death...
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:11 PM
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My guess is, that it was removed, because anyone enough skilled would find out there are serious flaws in the flight model... - just my opinion, don't jump on me...
in your oppinion what exactly are those flaws?
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:09 PM
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Well, surely, dev tem is very busy with other aspects of the simulator like performance, we know, no problem, we just wait, but please, just an official word about what happened with Su-26 and which plans has 1C for it might be nice.

Just that, we'll wait.
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:19 PM
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in your oppinion what exactly are those flaws?
There is no exact evidence as there is not a plane like Su-26, where you can compare... how many people can fly in real Spit, Hurri or Bf? One from million? How many people can fly in Su-26?
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:22 PM
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The missing Su-26 is almost certainly a licensing issue.
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:33 PM
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There is no exact evidence as there is not a plane like Su-26, where you can compare... how many people can fly in real Spit, Hurri or Bf? One from million? How many people can fly in Su-26?
Tiger Moth is still in flight, there's a possible pilot comparison. As far as I remember, it is one of the planes you can fly in Duxford airshow if you pay some money... but of course I seriously doubt that the pilot would leave the controls to anybody
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:34 PM
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The missing Su-26 is almost certainly a licensing issue.
That would be terrible...

Let's wait for an official confirm...
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:36 PM
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Tiger Moth is still in flight, there's a possible pilot comparison. As far as I remember, it is one of the planes you can fly in Duxford airshow if you pay some money... but of course I seriously doubt that the pilot would leave the controls to anybody
in 2001 that is exactly what I was doing, I was taking fare paying customers for rides in the Tiger Moth and letting them have a go, the thing is the original DeHaviland company does not exist any more so it doesn't matter that there are tigers flying, there is no manufacturers licensing issue to worry about.
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:56 PM
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in 2001 that is exactly what I was doing, I was taking fare paying customers for rides in the Tiger Moth and letting them have a go, the thing is the original DeHaviland company does not exist any more so it doesn't matter that there are tigers flying, there is no manufacturers licensing issue to worry about.
Do you fly Tiger Moths? I'm gealous about that! Won't you feel interesting to comment in a new post about FM's behaviour in CoD in respect to reality? Would be nice to hear yout thougths on that subject...


Apart of that, Messerschmitt is still existing into MBB/Eurocopter/EADS I think, and Hawker into BaE, or somewhat like that. Legal issues could come from any rights owner, not only Sukhoi. Anyway there are Sukhois in Il-2.. Su-2 at least

The Junkers case is different, they build home heaters by now.

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