UBI passes Epi filter debacle cost onto customers?

[Shrike_UK]

Originally Posted by Hunin

It sounds like you have never used steam before so allow me to explain the case a little.
Steam synchronizes it's clients with the latest version of the game by automaticaly updating it at first chance.
It does so when new patches are made avaiable ( in fact if you don't pay attention whilst starting up you might not even realize one of your games has just been patched ) and during install.

What Luthier is saying is that because they plan on releasing patches even before or on the day that the game comes out in the west ( not only concerning the epi filer btw, they are working on a number of things to improve performance ) most of us westerners will never even see the version out in Russia at the moment - due to steam automaticaly downloading the patches during our first install.

Now if those patches will amount to 10 GB you still have a problem, but at the moment we have no reason to believe that.
You should be perfectly fine.

The whole procedure can be turned off for individual programs to your liking aswell. And of course it doesn't work if you set steam to offline mode ( not possible during install ).

Hope this gives a bit of clarity.

Thank you Hunin, yep im a regular steam user, i bought Race07 and all the series of that on steam, and Men of War on Steam only 2 months ago. fact is though, last time i downloaded Men of War Assualt Squad, i ended up paying an Extra £10 because it used up most of my monthly qouta, i simply cant afford to keep doing it. I dont see what the big deal is that everyone has to use steam nowadays and we cant just buy it in the shop on DVD. Its far easier and much less costly for some people.

And thanks for confirming it can be installed by DVD then patched via Steam, that is a BIG weight off my mind and i feel much happier thank you.

[Hunin]

Originally Posted by Shrike_UK

Thank you Hunin, yep im a regular steam user, i bought Race07 and all the series of that on steam, and Men of War on Steam only 2 months ago. fact is though, last time i downloaded Men of War Assualt Squad, i ended up paying an Extra £10 because it used up most of my monthly qouta, i simply cant afford to keep doing it. I dont see what the big deal is that everyone has to use steam nowadays and we cant just buy it in the shop on DVD. Its far easier and much less costly for some people.

Oh my could have spared myself some typing

I think it boils down to two things:

a) Copy protection. Steam is crackable but it's more difficult then other systems and especialy the MP part of steam games is a pain for pirates

b) Revenue. The share of money going directly to the studio when distributing over steam is larger then the share they see from conventional publishing.

Other then that it's just practical because of autopatch and the integrated and perfectly good MP system that devs get for their game for free when using steam.

[Shrike_UK]

Originally Posted by Hunin

Oh my could have spared myself some typing

I think it boils down to two things:

a) Copy protection. Steam is crackable but it's more difficult then other systems and especialy the MP part of steam games is a pain for pirates

b) Revenue. The share of money going directly to the studio when distributing over steam is larger then the share they see from conventional publishing.

Other then that it's just practical because of autopatch and the integrated and perfectly good MP system that devs get for their game for free when using steam.

haha yes, thank you, thanks for confirming it can be installed by DVD then patched via Steam, that is a BIG weight off my mind and i feel much happier

Yeah im not a Steam hater, i know they exist tho, lol.

If i wrote a game, i would want to distribute via steam too, so much easier for the developers. and i can sit here being lazy in my chair without going out to the shops. lol.

My next task tho is to find somewhere that sells it on DVD lol.

[Creelers]

You will be able to install from the disk, then patch it.

[stanford]

Shrike - with respect - what are you plans in the future? Almost every single multiplayer game in existance has regular 100mb-1gb patches to fix bugs and add new features. Almost every game you can buy on DVD instantly requires a patch.

The simple point is this is not a problem you are going to face once, you are going to face it time and again.

Someone said it in this thread before, you need to get in touch with BT. It may be possible to end your contract early or change that contract to better suit your requirements. Call centre staff will help you if you go to them with the right attitude.

When time for your contract renewal, please do not stay with BT. There are vastly, vastly superior ISP's out there offering incredible service and value.

Take a look at https://www.bethere.co.uk

Excellent service, excellent value. Slightly more money, but you get what you pay for.

And regarding you being on 1 meal a day so you can play a computer game - crikey - not for me to tell you what to spend your money on but do check your priorities!!

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

Originally Posted by Vevster

You don't know the value of money at all.

If Ubi charged the real cost of the game to you, you would pay far more.

Most games in 2011 are not profitable for editors, about 15%-20% of them are. That is including console games.
The ones that are profitable cover the costs of those who aren't. Or not. So sometimes editors make losses (complete P&L)

If an editor charged a price based on number of units sold, you would end up paying soem games several hundred euros or pounds.

so how come you can buy this game from russia as a download at a fraction of the cost? 365rubles about 14dollars/pounds

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

btw, just to let you know, i have gladly paid 50pounds for the collectors edition, no doubt this will increase thrice fold with the eventual release of add-on packs ,as i did with forgotton battles/1946 etc purely because i think the game is worth it.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

you must be kiddin me....so we all need to bleed because he doesnt have flat net....ahahaha

Maybe the British phonelines are still damaged from the war.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by MD_Wild_Weasel

btw, just to let you know, i have gladly paid 50pounds for the collectors edition, no doubt this will increase thrice fold with the eventual release of add-on packs ,as i did with forgotton battles/1946 etc purely because i think the game is worth it.

Different market, different purchasing power, different MSRP.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by MD_Wild_Weasel

so how come you can buy this game from russia as a download at a fraction of the cost? 365rubles about 14dollars/pounds

Paying 50 euros for CoD if u live in Russia would be the same as u paying some where around 200 euros where u live now.