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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-27-2011, 01:18 AM
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I'm not sure where some of you guys coming off saying that the IL-2 guys should just up and change publishers, as if that's possible.

Clearly, Ubisoft owns the rights to publish the IL-2 series, and there's nothing the developers can do about that. It's either they stick with Ubisoft or split off and create a new product that doesn't bear the IL-2 name, which would be a shame given how much work they put into cultivating that name in the gaming community as a high quality sim product.

I'm sure if they had the magical ability to just "stop using Ubisoft" they would, given that they could find another publisher. The truth is, this isn't how it works in the world of business and contract law.
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Old 03-27-2011, 01:27 AM
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I'm not sure where some of you guys coming off saying that the IL-2 guys should just up and change publishers, as if that's possible.

Clearly, Ubisoft owns the rights to publish the IL-2 series, and there's nothing the developers can do about that. It's either they stick with Ubisoft or split off and create a new product that doesn't bear the IL-2 name, which would be a shame given how much work they put into cultivating that name in the gaming community as a high quality sim product.

I'm sure if they had the magical ability to just "stop using Ubisoft" they would, given that they could find another publisher. The truth is, this isn't how it works in the world of business and contract law.
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Old 03-27-2011, 01:39 AM
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This +1

We all know it sucks, but it is necessary.
No its NOT necessary. Games have been around for years and people have been dealing with them fine. If someone has a problem with epileptic seazures then dont play video games DUH is that so hard to figure out. How many IL2 players are epileptic?? I have never heard of one problem.
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Old 03-27-2011, 09:29 AM
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No its NOT necessary. Games have been around for years and people have been dealing with them fine. If someone has a problem with epileptic seazures then dont play video games DUH is that so hard to figure out. How many IL2 players are epileptic?? I have never heard of one problem.


"Our game did cause Wide-Scale Epilepsy Failures when tested"

Does this mean that many of the beta testers were Epileptic? Or does it mean the game caused epileptic type symptoms in otherwise normal people?
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:35 AM
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The reason Luthier gave for implementing the filter was not to prevent people from having seizures, but to stop people suing them.
So how do you best do that? That is the question to address, as it is the one posed by the creators.

I say :-
1) Post a great big warning on the opening screen.
2) Have the filter in place and active regardelss of the warning.
3) Put a disable option in the config file.
Very sensible approach.

In the real world we cannot, and probably should not, remove all risks from life.
All that can reasonably be expected is that risks are identified and either removed, reduced or managed.
It is not practical to remove or reduce all risks.

If the implication of removing the epilepsy risk completely is that game performance is greatly reduced for all then it is surely more sensible to manage the risk in the way suggested.

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Old 03-27-2011, 10:53 AM
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"Our game did cause Wide-Scale Epilepsy Failures when tested"

Does this mean that many of the beta testers were Epileptic? Or does it mean the game caused epileptic type symptoms in otherwise normal people?
From my reading of luthiers post I took it to mean they had some software that tested for certain events or conditions (like repetitive flashes) and it found that COD failed the test. I'm sure if they ran the test with any of the early IL2 sims they would also fail the test (as would many existing combat flight sims)!

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