Anti-epilepsy filter?

[Tacoma74]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

+1, 100% agree. This is not a joke, the epilepsy rule/law is there to protect people who have the misfortune to suffer from this terrible condition, Ubi should be praised for taking action in 2008 not rubbished. Its sad that it has blighted Cliffs of Dover, but it is an oversight from the Dev's not from Ubisoft. It hasn't affected any other game or developers that adhere to the same restrictions.

None of this defeats the fact that this should be made optional. That is the main issue we're having right now. Yes epilepsy is serious, but why bring all of us down. Unless it is made optional or fixed to work like it should soon then the game will be off to a very bad start. Question is, will it be authorized to legally be made optional, or must we all suffer with this crap forever, or until it is effectively fixed? I shouldn't have to drop an extra lump sum of cash to be able to play this smoothly. Period.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by swiss

roflmaostc!

Yeah - this is so much fun making jokes about people with diseases and handicaps... I'm also rolling on the floor. How could I ever stop laughing after humor like that?

[Cowboy10uk]

Ummm well no, as its a 16+ game, Hes too young for it anyway. Im sorry your son has epilepsy, But to expect everyone else to have to put up with some draconian filter is out of order. If epilepsy affects him that badly then sadly He wont be able to play video games, The fact his brother and mates do is hard luck, but thats life.

Yes I agree Epilepsy is a bad condition and I know people do suffer greatly for it, BUT they are aware of the condition and its UP to THEM to take measures to stop themselves having an attack. OR if they are young like your son, then its upto the the Parents to take the action.

Stop expecting the rest of the world to have to make sacrifices on the off chance some person near us suffers from a medical condition. Im sick and tired of this damn nanny state that has grown up because of the bloody PC brigade.

This may sound harse, if it does Im sorry, and yes before you ask I have seen many many people suffer from epilepsy including some very close friends.

[Health_Angel]

Originally Posted by mazex

Yeah - this is so much fun making jokes about people with diseases and handicaps... I'm also rolling on the floor. How could I ever stop laughing after humor like that?

So the solution is to make a game unplayable for all customers because your 5 year old son couldn't play it? There are plenty of games he could (actually should) play instead of IL2 CoD i guess.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Tacoma74

None of this defeats the fact that this should be made optional. That is the main issue we're having right now. Yes epilepsy is serious, but why bring all of us down. Unless it is made optional or fixed to work like it should soon then the game will be off to a very bad start. Question is, will it be authorized to legally be made optional, or must we all suffer with this crap forever, or until it is effectively fixed? I shouldn't have to drop an extra lump sum of cash to be able to play this smoothly. Period.

I have no problem at all with making it optional, and I think that is how it should be done too. But as this is to comply with laws and government recommendations there may be some problem there unfortunately. Somehow all other Ubisoft titles have managed to do it without losing FPS... How about Assasins Creed : Brotherhood - that game has passed the same tests and has an average user score of 9.1 over at Gamespot now (released March 2011). They sure had to do some compromises to make it pass as there are a lot of gameplay involving going from dark rooms to sun bathing desert there... Hear a lot of people whining about how bad it looks and how it stutters all the time? Do you hear the devs blaming Ubisoft for making the implement the features that will make the game more friendly to people with these serious problems?

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Fact - We never saw any 'in game footage' despite numerous requests.
Fact - Ubisoft have had the Epilepsy rule for over 3 years
Fact - 1c failed to meet the requirements of the rule, hence luthier having to apply the filter, this as caused FPS drop and effectively disabled SLI.

proof here from 2008, please read the forums Tiger, its all there.

http://spong.com/article/15691/Ubiso...s-for-Epilepsy

What you have proved is that Ubi has been screening games for epilepsy since 2008 (google is your friend, well done), what you haven't proven is your following comments,
"this is not Ubisofts fault, the dev's have screwed up, either that, or its an excuse for such a poor running game. Given the fact that they refused to show us any 'in game' footage despite repeated request from myself and others then it would appear that its a cover up for a poor running game. IMHO."
As I said you have no more idea than any of us whether this is a cover up as you put it, or if UBI dumped this on Maddox Games at the last moment, it's fine to have an opinion but you are turning people away from the game on assumptions.

Why don't we wait until it's released in the West and see how it is instead of digging for faults and problems, you say you want this game to succeed while doing everything in your power to see that it doesn't...IMHO

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Health_Angel

So the solution is to make a game unplayable for all customers because your 5 year old son couldn't play it? There are plenty of games he could (actually should) play instead of IL2 CoD i guess.

See my answer above.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Codex

A NOTE ABOUT EPILEPSY

Well that is it then, this is a deal breaker for me. I'm not directing this at Oleg and his team personally, but I don't spend $$$$ (yes $thousands$) on having a high end gaming system with multi-gpu's to have my gaming experience nerfed by some legal - suit wearing - OMG we'll be sued - dickless yupi. This has just taken things too far, it is sufficient (in my eyes) to simply place a warning message on the manual and even a pop-up message on screen before the game starts. Personally I'd advise Oleg and Team to seek their own legal advise AND DITCH UBI ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!

It pains me to say this but I've cancelled my order. I'll stick with IL-2

P.S.

You make it sound like its a bad thing Luthier . Seriously, I understand and I feel sorry for you guys having to deal with this situation.

I agree wholeheartedly. Currently it looks like the publisher put the producer at a situation in which the game might get crippled. If the release version is indeed like that, then we`re talking about crippling the sales aswell. The end-user cannot be blamed for not buying a broken game. 1C should really take legal means of cancelling the agreement with Ubi for the sake of the sales. I don`t know how others will react to this, but I`m not buying the game until I see an option to turn off the filter (a confi.ini line would be sufficent).

Saying that just from the info given by Luthier, I can only say that such a decision by Ubi is unacceptable.

[Vevster]

Originally Posted by mazex

I have no problem at all with making it optional, and I think that is how it should be done too. But as this is to comply with laws and government recommendations there may be some problem there unfortunately. Somehow all other Ubisoft titles have managed to do it without losing FPS... How about Assasins Creed : Brotherhood - that game has passed the same tests and has an average user score of 9.1 over at Gamespot now (released March 2011). They sure had to do some compromises to make it pass as there are a lot of gameplay involving going from dark rooms to sun bathing desert there... Hear a lot of people whining about how bad it looks and how it stutters all the time? Do you hear the devs blaming Ubisoft for making the implement the features that will make the game more friendly to people with these serious problems?

Even it is has to be optional, it has to be implemented and the soft work with you, admitidly with an impact on perf, which should below; so it is still a question of implementation by the dev team.

Guys, lets wait to see Luthiers response to my thread, it could all be good if we can see the game running before the filter was added.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19450