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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-20-2011, 11:41 AM
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I have a question: Do you think CoD will run decently on an ATI 4650 at 1024x768 resolution with little or no FSAA but with high detail models and textures?
Assuming your processor can also deliver the settings you want to use I would guess the card might be ok at that resolution with much of the eye candy turned off. I don't think 'high detail models and textures' and '1024x768' really go together. Don't be offended but I doubt very much if you'll enjoy the high level of detail graphics CoD can provide if you use such low settings. 1024 x 768 is already, visually, a low level setting in IL-2.

I have my old PC with AMD3800+ 2.4GHz processor, 2Gb RAM and 7800GT 256Mb graphics card (similar generation to the 4650) and it runs IL-2 well at 'Excellent' on 1680x1050 and runs it well at 'Perfect' on 1280x1024. I don't expect it to deliver well on high detail settings in CoD.

But that's only my 2p 'think'. Best thing if you are wondering if its worth buying is wait for someone with a similar set up to report back on it.
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Old 03-21-2011, 12:57 PM
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Default per COD, any advantage between these two CPUs?

I have a CoD-specific quandary (again). The Intel 2500k processor versus the i-7-920? I know the older 920 supports hyper-threading, and that the 2500k does not. The 2500k can be over-clocked quite easily (with air cooling) to levels that would strain a 920-based system (making that system a power-hog in the process, plus more heat).

If CoD is not coded for hyper-threading, then is there any benefit to be gained from using the 1366 platform versus the 1155 platform for Cod? In other words, would CoD be better served to have a multi-core processor that can more easily deliver high CPU frequencies (4.5~4.9ghz?), but no hyper-threading? As far as system Architecture goes, I'm leaning towards one GPU presently, with an eye to a second one some time later. I have not seen much to show any advantage of 2x16 PCI-e lanes versus 2x8 pci-e lanes for video through put when it comes to two GPUs.

I'm sure this has been covered somewhere, but I'm focusing on two specific CPUs and their attendant architectures.
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:41 PM
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I would just wait for the first reviews and reports.

BTW: You can overclock an i7 920 to 4 GHz easily. Key factor is not the amount of power, but the speed and quality of the mainboard, RAM and of course the power-supply. I had my i7920 running at 4 GHz for quite a while with a quality 550 W-unit.

Aircooled, of course.

And while we're at it: Don't forget to cool the mainboard when overclocking!
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:27 PM
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FF! Thanks for replying. Much appreciated. Sound advice on waiting. It won't be long before virtual airmen are flooding this forum with their system specs and in-game results. I even have a 920 already; had it for a while. It's just that to get the 920 up to 3.6ghz it runs @317 watts (100% load), and 173 watts @ idle, while the 2500K is stated as 4.3ghz @ 187 watts (100% load), and 83 watts @ idle. This processor will do 4.8~5ghz on air. Heat is not so much as issue too (nor is water cooling said to be of much benefit, and overclocking is restricted to the CPU only. No FSB or memory to worry over. That's impressive. Here are a couple of links for the info I've put here; CPU comparatve:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...ssors_review/1
Not bad, but the issue I'll wait for is to see if there's any benefit to hyper-threading when it comes to CoD (heavy flak, looking down over London, and a sky full of planes,for instance). Won't be long now. Less than TWO WEEKS!!
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It looks like the I2500k is going to be like the duocore e6600 in 2006. Even cheaper. Can you imagine a $250 cpu running at 5ghz on air? If CoD is not geared toward more than 4 core's and one gpu one could built a smoking machine for less than $800 if you allready have a case and powersupply. If they later optimze it for SLI you can add a gpu. If it uses all 6 cores you can go AMD and still havea cheap solution.

When Il2 came out it took some expensive hardware to run it properly. There might be some good thinking behind Oleg's release strategy. Pull the masses in on affordable hardware. Once they're hooked they'll upgrade in order to be able to play the next installments. Give them a few new graphics features every installment and everyone stays interested.

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Old 03-21-2011, 07:05 PM
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FF! Thanks for replying. Much appreciated. Sound advice on waiting. It won't be long before virtual airmen are flooding this forum with their system specs and in-game results. I even have a 920 already; had it for a while. It's just that to get the 920 up to 3.6ghz it runs @317 watts (100% load), and 173 watts @ idle, while the 2500K is stated as 4.3ghz @ 187 watts (100% load), and 83 watts @ idle. This processor will do 4.8~5ghz on air. Heat is not so much as issue too (nor is water cooling said to be of much benefit, and overclocking is restricted to the CPU only. No FSB or memory to worry over. That's impressive. Here are a couple of links for the info I've put here; CPU comparatve:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...ssors_review/1
Not bad, but the issue I'll wait for is to see if there's any benefit to hyper-threading when it comes to CoD (heavy flak, looking down over London, and a sky full of planes,for instance). Won't be long now. Less than TWO WEEKS!!
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Nice, thanks for the link!

For me the problem with the overclocked CPU simply was the rising board-temperature. Voltages became pretty unstable after a while, causing instability, no matter how high or low the actual CPU-temperature was. So I tuned down to a still good 3.6 GHz.

I'm considering an upgrade for SoW as well, but I'll definitely wait and test the simulation before judging which part to upgrade. Considering the thin information on features and usage of multi-threading and DX-features, there's simply no basis for a reasonable update, now.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:13 PM
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Default Quick question - CoD on ATI4600?

I was looking at the system requirements, and my card, ATI Radeon 4600 is not on the list of supported cards. Does this mean that I won't be able to play CoD on it at all?
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I was looking at the system requirements, and my card, ATI Radeon 4600 is not on the list of supported cards. Does this mean that I won't be able to play CoD on it at all?
i think its just to give u an idea of the types of cards that will work, really as long as it's 512mb, and supports dx9.0c it'll work, how many frames per second u get is a totally different question all together, a 4600 is pretty slow,..

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Old 03-22-2011, 11:19 AM
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Assuming your processor can also deliver the settings you want to use I would guess the card might be ok at that resolution with much of the eye candy turned off. I don't think 'high detail models and textures' and '1024x768' really go together. Don't be offended but I doubt very much if you'll enjoy the high level of detail graphics CoD can provide if you use such low settings. 1024 x 768 is already, visually, a low level setting in IL-2.

I have my old PC with AMD3800+ 2.4GHz processor, 2Gb RAM and 7800GT 256Mb graphics card (similar generation to the 4650) and it runs IL-2 well at 'Excellent' on 1680x1050 and runs it well at 'Perfect' on 1280x1024. I don't expect it to deliver well on high detail settings in CoD.

But that's only my 2p 'think'. Best thing if you are wondering if its worth buying is wait for someone with a similar set up to report back on it.
Thanks for the feedback. Just thought that if I ran CoD at any resolution higher than 1280 I'll only get a chunk of lag with it. Just wish they'd release a demo for CoD.
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:04 PM
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It has been said before, and many times.

"I suggest you wait until the BOB COD is released"

The BOB COD forums will be buzzing with information about systems, all kinds of configuration issues. You won't believe at the support flowing once it is released.

Everyone will be looking for Nirvana with COD.

It's OK to post here and make some system upgrades for sure, but just remember you may still need help with refinements once it is installed on your system.

Don't panic over what you do or don't have, and be especially careful if you are not very sure about hardware you would like to buy.
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