Friday update and discussions 2011-03-11

[nynek]

Originally Posted by kirq

2 Weeks to release and still no real ingame footage. Few ground objects screenshots and short vid over the water. I don't know what to think about it. The best selling vids CoD had so far were those two unofficial vids that has been quickly pulled out. I don't get it at all, it looks like 1C/ubisoft don't want to sell this game. I canceled my CE pre-order last week because lack of any ingame footage is a bit fishy at this point. I'll wait untill release, read forums, watch ingame vids on YT (finally!) and then I'll decide whether to buy it or wait for some patches.

Oleg and kammanda

Don't worry I'll buy Two copies

to kirq

...a rob jak chcesz chlopie....tylko nie placz

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

The smoothness may not be a true indication of the game though, It could be made using the new video tools which allow you to smooth FPS drop out when making movies.

The leaked videos where just as smooth (as I remember it right) and there was a lot of more action on them (and from a rather mid-range rig)... There is a bit of stuttering when the camera is scraping the ground and why would that happen with the "post-action-render"?

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Tanner

Dumb question:

Why is the game called Battle of Britain in Russian but Cliffs of Dover elsewhere?

if it is still called Battle of Britain in russia (is it ?) that would be because it is oleg's preferred name, and since 1C does the distribution and retail for that region they can call it whatever they like

ubi as the distributor for the west has renamed it, thinking (wrongly) that keeping the old il2 name of the first series will increase sales. being french, the marketing department at ubi thought it sounded interesting to call it "cliffs of dover"

Originally Posted by Dano

And you failed to read his post lol.

Yep..."Eventually"..Missed it !

Got me !

[kirq]

Originally Posted by nynek

Oleg and kammanda

Don't worry I'll buy Two copies

Great, You can send me extra one!

Originally Posted by nynek

to kirq

...a rob jak chcesz chlopie....tylko nie placz

to nynek

Oczywiście, że zrobię jak chcę. Zaś Ty wyluzuj chłopie bo to forum nie służy wyłącznie do deprecjonowania jakiejkolwiek krytyki i klepania twórców po plecach. Zaś oni chyba zupełnie nie zdają sobie sprawy jak zerową promocję ma ten tytuł. Nawet osoby które czekają na tę grę od lat (jak ja i wielu innych) mają już wątpliwości.

[dflion]

Thanks Oleg,
Excellent Tiger Moth video, I can't wait to 'give it a spin' (literally). The attention to detail in all shots is looking great - some new ground objects, field hospital, field kitchen, gun emplacements etc. I particularly liked the the Spitfire refuelling scene and the MG (I think) sports car - lots of new atmosphere for the flight sim.
From my point of view I feel the grass, field and tree foliage colours are getting better all the time. I know some members are very fastidious, though I always remind myself, this new flight sim is a continual 'work in progress', which is how you kept improving IL2, as new versions were released.
DFLion

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by kendo65

I know Dutch - it's just been so long - think I'm finally cracking

It's hard 'keeping the faith' sometimes.

Truth is I really don't know what to make any more about the lack of real detail + video on some of the features. Either they really are being pushed right down to the wire to get the features ready, or Oleg is a really great poker player and is going to hold those cards close all the way to the end.

We've been waiting a long time. The answer to your final statement is yes. You don't need much to keep the faith: just what you already know of Oleg and his work and what he's shown us so far.

He's already told us that they're working on it right up to the last minute (and beyond), and that he want's to keep a lot of surprises for us.

None of this is anything new for Oleg and co. I think it's quite charming.

[kendo65]

I find it hard to believe that I'm actually posting this craziness - just put it down to pre-release tension


I just want to say that I don't buy Tree's much-repeated 'post action render theory' on the videos:

1. If they were going to use this method to cheat us ('cos that's what it amounts to) the logical thing would be to use it to show 200 bombers over London, with flak, Spits, 109s, etc, etc.

2. Pretty stupid broadcasting to everyone that the slow-rendering feature exists at all if they had even an inkling that they would use it to cheat. ie they'd keep it secret - then we (or some of us) wouldn't suspect anything.

3. They'd get found out when game releases. The boost to initial sales would in no way compensate for the damage to their reputation and subsequent loss of sales in the future.

4. And this is by far the biggest and most obvious reason - they are respectable and honourable people who care about what they do. They haven't shown any tendency in the past to over-hype products or cheat anyone. They've been brutally honest also about the state of play concerning the various features that won't make the initial release.

So please Tree, do us a favour, give it a rest

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by furbs

nice post Dutch, but your telling me your not even a bit concerned about the lack of in game footage and sound at this stage of updates?

Not concerned at all, furbs me ole mate.

Originally Posted by major_setback

It shouldn't matter how windy it is, from that height you shouldn't see much of the waves at all. They are very much out of scale:

I'd say it's not the waves, it's the cliffs from those pics. maybe a 2000ft difference in altitude, too. Only joking major!

Originally Posted by kendo65

I know Dutch - it's just been so long - think I'm finally cracking
It's hard 'keeping the faith' sometimes.
...or Oleg is a really great poker player and is going to hold those cards close all the way to the end.

Aaah Rats! Badaim beat me to it!

[zauii]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

The smoothness may not be a true indication of the game though, It could be made using the new video tools which allow you to smooth FPS drop out when making movies.

Wow just wow, what a load of bullshit, you do really enjoy spreading a bad word about this sim don't you?
For once if this was all a marketing stunt, they'd for sure go all in with insane trailers , a few hundred planes and action going on everywhere not the other way around.

No.. no just no, some people should just be banned from buying certain games tbh.