Frankly, these lasers...

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by ChrisDNT

Nice VIDEO, Uther.


P.S. have you human eyes in your head or some kind of bionic video system for seeing ?

lol. This is part of the problem huh, Some people think they should look as if some one is videoing the action complete with overexposure effects, while others think they sould be shown as they would look with our own eyes.

Another problem is that everyones brain and eyes aren't identical, one person could see tracers as long SW lasers while the other percieves them far shorter, just like you would get different results if you used two different makes of video camera to film the same gun firing tracers.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by ChrisDNT

I fired the cannon from the gunner seat and I saw the cannons firing away from the battery.

I never saw even a single time any "lasers".

That's the point - it's a matter of projectile speed and observer angle.
If you watch the tracer from a 90° angle and 10ft distance you'll get lasers.
Decrease angle or increase distance and you'll get dot's again.

This laser effect is made by your brain.

Someone told me a dragonfly can process up to 300fps - if that's true they would never experience the laser effect.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by swiss

That's the point - it's a matter of projectile speed and observer angle.
If you watch the tracer from a 90° angle and 10ft distance you'll get lasers.
Decrease angle or increase distance and you'll get dot's again.

This laser effect is made by your brain.

Someone told me a dragonfly can process up to 300fps - if that's true they would never experience the laser effect.

Absolutely spot on and that's why i think the in-game tracers are realistic..it not only models exactly what you describe, but also the transition from one effect to the other :




Also, interesting bit of trivia on the dragonfly, damn insects in general have insane vision.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Also, interesting bit of trivia on the dragonfly, damn insects in general have insane vision.

I you think about it; that would put you in the position to see an incoming bullet virtually in slowmo - yet you can't dodge it.

[nearmiss]

Looks to me like the new tracers will probably make online play easier.

You won't have to spend much effort to find the enemy, especially when he shoots.

It may be the tracers will be easier to see at distance than the miniscule dots on the screen, representing the aircraft.

I'll trust Luthier on this one. Timelapse photos really don't tell the whole story do they?

[Necrobaron]

I've always thought it was humorous when people complain that these tracers look like Star Wars "lasers". What most don't consider is that the truth is the exact opposite. SW lasers look like tracers. It's no secret that the SW movies borrowed heavily from WWII aviation. Heck the cockpit of the Millenium Falcon is very similar to that of a B-29 and the famous TIE fighters are basically B-17/B-24 ballturrets with the MGs removed and vertical solar panels added. Most of the "space combat" sequences were inspired by or copied from old WWII aerial combat footage.

[choctaw111]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

lol. This is part of the problem huh, Some people think they should look as if some one is videoing the action complete with overexposure effects, while others think they sould be shown as they would look with our own eyes.

Another problem is that everyones brain and eyes aren't identical, one person could see tracers as long SW lasers while the other percieves them far shorter, just like you would get different results if you used two different makes of video camera to film the same gun firing tracers.

I had given some thought to this.
It is very true that different people have different levels of visual acuity.
A good example of this is the famous baseball player Joe DiMagio.
He could actually see where his bat was making contact with the spinning baseball.
To be able to see things that happen that quickly can only mean that his eyes had a much higher "framerate" than mine.
When I saw tracers, I saw streaks. Someone like Joe DiMagio would probably not have.

[266_sqn_lloyd]

Ok here it is! I know exactly what he is referring to when he mentions these lasers.

Firstly, to those i know it all army gun ho gentlemen who say that this is all correct - then frankly your completely wrong - most of the time from the perspective of early Spitfires which did not use tracer rounds then you would not see anything apart from the actual hits i.e. smoke and maybe some combustion - only later models was there tracer and so on to point 2.

Secondly, tracer fire could be seen but because of the barrel twist all tracer round would be seen as a slight spiralling effect and not (straight elongated laser type effect.)

So point being yes he is correct that it looks wrong as they look like lasers, and two there would actually be vapour trails which they do not show.

And that’s final - no come back just do your research!!!!

[Necrobaron]

Originally Posted by 266_sqn_lloyd

ok here it is! I know exactly what he is referring to when he mentions these lasers.

Firstly, to those i know it all army gun ho gentlemen who say that this is all correct - then frankly your completely wrong - most of the time from the perspective of early spitfires which did not use tracer rounds then you would not see anything apart from the actual hits i.e. Smoke and maybe some combustion - only later models was there tracer and so on to point 2.

Secondly, tracer fire could be seen but because of the barrel twist all tracer round would be seen as a slight spiralling effect and not (straight elongated laser type effect.)

so point being yes he is correct that it looks wrong as they look like lasers, and two there would actually be vapour trails which they do not show.

And that’s final - no come back just do your research!!!!

lol!

[kimosabi]

Pew pew pew! Lazors rawk!