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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-10-2011, 03:30 PM
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Excuse me if this sounds a bit rude but,

what part of "if processor power is only about frame rates" wasn't understandable?
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Besides, the guy says he's buying Intel anyways. I'm sure that you (Oldschool) aren't going to change his mind. You are correct about the correlation between your monitors refresh rate and your overall FPS. However, with a game that needs as much processing power as it can get, the Sandy Bridge will blow the doors off ANY current AMD product. It's not that we're not listening... we just have selective hearing
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:50 PM
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Besides, the guy says he's buying Intel anyways. I'm sure that you (Oldschool) aren't going to change his mind. You are correct about the correlation between your monitors refresh rate and your overall FPS. However, with a game that needs as much processing power as it can get, the Sandy Bridge will blow the doors off ANY current AMD product. It's not that we're not listening... we just have selective hearing
If your game/sim gets 150fps with one cpu and 100 with another what fps is diplayed on your monitor?? 60 fps or 150fps. Your gameplay will be limited to a maximum of your refresh rate, so yes in theory your intel processes faster than the amd but unless your monitor has an unlimited refresh rate your always be limited to 60 fps which translates to your actual max fps weather your cpu does 100 or 200 is irrelavent as you only get 60fps. Once you exceed your monitors capability its just wasted fps in a sense. SO your gameplay will be the same weather its 150 fps with intel or 100 with amd as they both will display the same 60 FPS.
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:54 PM
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with your AMD low budget stuff you will have lower minimum fps and that is what counts.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:02 PM
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with your AMD low budget stuff you will have lower minimum fps and that is what counts.
If I could afford the new Intel stuff I would. They are honestly better in pretty much every way, but I bought a quad core AMD Phenom 2 3.1 ghz because it is a huge boost over what I have now, and I can afford it.

Next year my wife tells me I get to go nuts with building a new machine, so it will tide me over for now.

If you can afford the Intel "i" processors go for it, but if you can't the AMD processors are a good match for price to performance.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:05 PM
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Again, I fail to see the logic behind Oldschool61's posts. What are we talking about here and what is this forum/subforum about?

Hoping to achieve 150 FPS with CoD is pretty optimistic IMO.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:25 PM
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with your AMD low budget stuff you will have lower minimum fps and that is what counts.
The point was that if your amd and intel both get a minimum of >60 fps then you wont see any difference
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Is err...is that likely to happen?
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:39 PM
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I just don't want my fps dropping to 10 during an attack on a raid of 100+ Ju88s, that's all I'm sayin
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:00 PM
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I just don't want my fps dropping to 10 during an attack on a raid of 100+ Ju88s, that's all I'm sayin
I totally agree with you. I was trying to point out that if a hypothetical system of each cpu manufacturer can render >60 fps worth of game play with 100 JU 88's is you wont see a difference past your monitor refresh rate.

Its like buying a Ferrari over a Prius to drive at 100kph on the highway. Sure the Ferrari has more power and is faster but when your speed is limited to "60hz" they both are equal.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:39 PM
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The Sandy Bridge processors are considerably more powerful than current AMD ones. The extra processing power 'headroom' gives a degree of extra future-proofing over the AMD and may result in systems using the intel's being able to handle future demands (in COD and elsewhere) better than the AMD.

For me, the price difference between an AMD and an i5-2500K is not an issue. The intel is well within budget for my upgrade. The extra performance certainly makes the 2500K the current 'sweet spot'

(I got hauled over the coals for using that term 'future-proofing' in a previous post - but it makes sense to build a system that has as much headroom to deal with future needs as you can afford. )

Also Oldschool 61, we can all see that you have an AMD fixation - but the OP did make clear that he wasn't interested. It's a bit disrespectful to keep harping on and on and on.

For myself - I did consider Bulldozer as an option, so I'm not some Intel fanboy, but as I want the new system to play COD - in 2 weeks - and Bulldozer won't be out until June...

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