Friday update and discussions 2011-03-04

Thanks for the update, the vibration on the mg17 when its fired is incredible. I'm really looking forward to hearing in game sound though Or at least, some details about it.

[Redwan]

I'm positively surprised. Very nice !
Even the clouds are OK (even if there is still work to be done)

[Cowboy10uk]

Ok guys, I know Im not very good with my flying etc, But I am right in thinking, That if you see your pilot jumping out of the aircraft and parachuting away, Then you may have done something wrong.

The whole idea is to survive the BOB and land back on terra firma with your aircraft intact. Honestly with what Oleg and his team are giving us here, does it really matter if the pilot looks a little wooden when hes falling to earth.

Im, sorry guys, Yes i know i've done a bit of moaning about the whole pre order thing, But We don't all have super computers and with the technology we have today, we are still not going to get photo realistic graphics and physics, Damn guys the comps just wont handle that.

Cant we all just be glad, that someone has taken the time and effort, to provide us with what looks to be a fantastic battle of britian sim.

Yes ok maybe it dosn't look like the films, But DAMN its closer than anything we have at the moment.

Its only my thoughts of course, But I do think Oleg and his team have done a great job, and they need support at this time, not complaints. I mean if all they hear are complants everytime they show something, Well guys, they may just stop giving us anything altogether which would be a great loss, to all of us.


Cowboy10uk

[Stiboo]

Also the first thing I noticed !

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Awesome update, the music is just beautiful.


Has anyone noticed this, though? The Hurricane Wall-paper shows a mirrored Hurricane. The serial code is in reverse. Hopefully this can be edited.

Oleg / Ilya any chance you can flip the Hurricane image back so the Squadron codes and seriel number are not back to front on the wallpaper?

I will do it myself tomorrow and post it here...if nobody else gets in first..



Any chance of a video of a tank battle, one thing I loved to do in IL2 was to watch a good land battle going on while my plane is on auto going to next waypoint, just a simple few tanks in a field would be nice...i'm not looking for a huge tankfest in London...while bombers fly overhead and fighters dog fight as well !! ( wonder what that'll do to the FPS ??!! )


Prehaps Ilya's " drown in videos" was a typo? With always some negative comments, prehaps he was saying " frown at videos "

Counting the days...

[zakkandrachoff]

nice vids!

will be nice some runway,taxi, and takeoff in cockpit video witout music. only engine, control tower and wingman radio orders.

[Defender]

Originally Posted by Sasha

To be honnest, I am not really impressed... "Wings of pray" had better visuals of ground.

Generally, I was hoping for some last minute surprise in graphics of ground and clouds.
This is year 2011, so these visuals are OK... but not impressive.

I've been following screenshots updates for many, many months... I honestly can't see what is so new in these 2 videos - that we haven't seen so far in update screens ?

This is brand new project... and should look much better than moded "Il-2 1946" but, except dynamic lightning and cockpit graphics, it is not the case.

Simulation feeling will be great, Oleg is master, number 1 in that field... but I was expecting better, more realistic clouds and ground visuals...

Just my calm analyses... nothing more - nothing less...

( no need to start the third wolrd war by fan-boys... or forum "inquisition" cry: to ban the member who dared to analyse the presentation )

Please no comparisons to Wings of Prey, it's TOTALLY NOT a proper comparison. They are on different ends of the spectrum in terms of what type of game they are. THey share the WWII theater .. that's the only similarity they have.

The terrain colours have been debated to death in here, some like it, some don't. Mods and graphic settings will be able to change the hue and saturation so keep that in mind.

This is also a new engine, version 1.0...IL-2 has gone through 9 years of post development that has brought it to where it is today. The same thing will happen with this engine, but it will take time to polish the most intricate details. Growing with the times is easier than releasing a game nobody can play because their systems are just too slow.

I respect your opinion of course, but yes it is 2011 and no high fidelity flight simulation has ever produced photo real graphics in a combat environment. DCS, Rise of Flight and Cliffs of Dover are all arguably inferior graphics wise to HAWKS, Apache Air Assault and Wings of Prey. <--- all of which are also console games.

If it could be done, it would be done...bottom line.

[PeterPanPan]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Awesome update, the music is just beautiful.


Has anyone noticed this, though? The Hurricane Wall-paper shows a mirrored Hurricane. The serial code is in reverse. Hopefully this can be edited.

Yup, I noticed this too, but didn't want to comment and attract the WP (Whine Police)

[Mabroc]

Zorin make a valid point asking for the videos that Luthier made but needed translation according to Oleg. Luthier response ("the two on the front page is not enough?" Im paraphrasing from memory) is somewhat strange, maybe the first statement had a translation error or it was referring to other stuff.

I was hoping for more "boring" stuff on those videos, take off from cold start for example, showing the instruments coming alive and perhaps when all is ready to push the throttle show that if you put a bad propeller pitch you crash the plane or forgot to open full radiator the engine blow itself in 5m. Those kind of things never, ever, seen before. The eye candy is nice, but most of us here (I guess) want more than that, you can always look at the excelent models on H.A.W.X. 2 if you want graphical detail or some FSX addons planes.

I will buy the next sim of Maddox game I thought almost 10 years after the orignal Il-2, and keep getting the expansions. I know Oleg want the best possible sim experience on current and future PC. But showing more of the great and unique stuff would do great to attract newcomers (new clients=more money=more expansions!!!).

And by the way, Zorin is a talented 3D modeller that made some of the best "forbidden stuff" released last couple of years: Bombs, gunpods, etc. Thanks for your work.

[zauii]

Originally Posted by Defender

Please no comparisons to Wings of Prey, it's TOTALLY NOT a proper comparison. They are on different ends of the spectrum in terms of what type of game they are. THey share the WWII theater .. that's the only similarity they have.

The terrain colours have been debated to death in here, some like it, some don't. Mods and graphic settings will be able to change the hue and saturation so keep that in mind.

This is also a new engine, version 1.0...IL-2 has gone through 9 years of post development that has brought it to where it is today. The same thing will happen with this engine, but it will take time to polish the most intricate details. Growing with the times is easier than releasing a game nobody can play because their systems are just too slow.

I respect your opinion of course, but yes it is 2011 and no high fidelity flight simulation has ever produced photo real graphics in a combat environment. DCS, Rise of Flight and Cliffs of Dover are all arguably inferior graphics wise to HAWKS, Apache Air Assault and Wings of Prey. <--- all of which are also console games.

If it could be done, it would be done...bottom line.

lol Hawks, Apache Air Assault and WoP all look crap once you sit 1 meter away on a high res monitor, these console games ain't anywhere near as good looking as say RoF on highest settings.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Hunin

Overall it seems like an up-to-date variant of what we all know and love.

Except that it's not.

But still I have to ask wether the clouds are temporary or not?

Temporary