I would like one question,why is not included in this part of the E4 Messer?

fruitbat · #1 03-01-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt255

Well, basically everyone who knows the difference would then fly a E-4, which is probably more realistic anyway.

I don't think it would be that bad. Better than leaving the E-4 out entirely.

like the E1 you mean.

Its weird how the usual lufty whiners don't seem to be concerned about that, yet they are concerned about which type of 20mm cannon they get (and upset it's not the better of the two).

TUSA/TX-Gunslinger · #2 03-01-2011, 01:45 PM

Hey Mom, some kid at school called me a "Lufty Whiner".

Now's the point that I start thinking about if the Dedicated Server has restrictions on aircraft slots, ammo, types, etc... If I remember correctly, it does.

Simple enough for online mission builders to limit numbers, etc... Spit II and E4/N limited to a few per side, for example.

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Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

Just to ad: the additional headarmor and even the additional windscreen armour was also possible with the early, more rounded canopy...

IF the mineshells are available in the amunition selection of the E-3 i would be very surprised, not to say dissapointed...
And btw, who would fly without them!

Can you elaborate some more? If many E-3's were converted to MG FF/M's in BoB why wouldn't they get MG?

S!

Gunny

fruitbat · #3 03-01-2011, 02:10 PM

my point is simple.

surely having a plane that fought in much larger numbers (the E1) in the Battle of Britain is more important than other sub types (E4N) which fought in much lesser numbers, if you want an as accurate as possible BoB (although having all the variants would be nice).

yes/no?

addman · #4 03-01-2011, 02:46 PM

There are more than 1 version of the Bf109E? LOL! All look the same to me!

JG53Frankyboy · #5 03-02-2011, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger

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Can you elaborate some more? If many E-3's were converted to MG FF/M's in BoB why wouldn't they get MG?

S!

Gunny

well, Maddox decided to put in the E-3. Than it should stay to be an E-3 ! And with a mineshell firing canon it becomes an E-4...

i guess we all here have the same opinion:
That the CoD 109 , at least at release, will be the E-3 is 'strange'.
It was there and had action but was by far not the most common variant. E-1 and E-4 would have been the much more logical choice. And perhaps more interesting for a Luftwaffe fighter campaign. First you have to fly the E-1 and later get the upgrade to the canon plane.
Even more strange is that 1C already have the MG-FF/M modelled for the Bf110C-4 & -7 ?!?!

my, very personal, wishlist for the 109 in CoD would have been:
E-1 & -/B with DB601A-1 old canopy , no headarmour
E-3 & -/B with DB601A-1 old canopy , no headarmour
E-4 & -/B with DB601Aa with newer canopy and headarmour
E-4/N with DB601N with newer canopy and headarmour

would have been from plane to plane a nice improvemnt in a pilotcareer. And for online, COOP designers have no proplems to restrict the numbers

, and im actually sure that Dogfight designers will also be able to limit planenumbers and weapons.

But ok, the axis side will get a lot (in comparison to the RAF) of flyable bombers

and dont forgett , there will still be the mighty G.50

TUSA/TX-Gunslinger · #6 03-02-2011, 06:31 AM

Thanks!

Great list. Understand all.

S!

Gunny

#7 03-02-2011, 08:12 AM

maybe they left something for the payware addons (*wink*)

JG53Frankyboy · #8 03-02-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvrdi

maybe they left something for the payware addons (*wink*)

most uf us sure dont know Maddox/1C further businnes plan. But i personaly doubt that there will be a pay AdOn of the BoB scenario.
Perhaps there will be some very few flyable in a free patch/upgrade. There will be most propably not so many planes for free as in the IL2 past, but i guess Maddox will still release a little amount of his work for free

Additional 109s would sure be canditates as not much 3D work (as example E-1: ammocounter in cockpit and some minor work on the wings) would be needed.
But in general i more expect some CoD AI planes (and missing ones) in further scenario AdOns.
As examples the Wellington flyable in an MTO (espacially early one), the Do17Z in an Moskau 1941/42 scenario.
And Bf109E-4 and E-7 would fit in these two. And Maddox is planing to make these AdOns playable for their own or merge them with the others..

Osprey · #9 03-03-2011, 08:04 PM

Sure Gunslinger, nice share (without an argument lol)

If I get around to it i'll put up data on the Spitfire wing designations, but for the record the book is called 'Spitfire, The History' and it really is definitive - everyone interested in WW2 WF air war should have this book (check the reviews, it's all facts, not bias)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spitfire-His.../dp/0946219486

ISBN's
0946219486
978-0946219483

fruitbat · #10 03-02-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

E-1 and E-4 would have been the much more logical choice. And perhaps more interesting for a Luftwaffe fighter campaign. First you have to fly the E-1 and later get the upgrade to the canon plane.

thats what i was hoping for, would of been really good.

maybe we'll get an E1 later, i hope so, was looking forward to flying it.