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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-24-2011, 12:10 AM
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Eh, how about some actual wartime footage?

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Old 02-24-2011, 12:41 AM
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Eh, how about some actual wartime footage?

that view at 3.50 from the wing while shooting is SO cool! Never seen it before!
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Old 02-24-2011, 02:30 AM
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Eh, how about some actual wartime footage?

That's an IL-2 firing Soviet guns. Having fired a Mosin Nagant I can tell you that the Russians have no problems with adding too much powder to their ammo. Then again it might also be more lax quality control than their western counterparts.
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Old 02-24-2011, 10:01 AM
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That's an IL-2 firing Soviet guns. Having fired a Mosin Nagant I can tell you that the Russians have no problems with adding too much powder to their ammo. Then again it might also be more lax quality control than their western counterparts.
Ah, I was waiting for the "this is a Russian aircraft, so it's different" argument.

If the Russians added too much power to their ammo, then I'd expect that one of my several Mosins or other Soviet firearms in my collection would have exploded by now.
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Old 02-24-2011, 10:22 PM
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Ah, I was waiting for the "this is a Russian aircraft, so it's different" argument.

If the Russians added too much power to their ammo, then I'd expect that one of my several Mosins or other Soviet firearms in my collection would have exploded by now.
If you can see a muzzle flash during the day you've got too much power and a lot of it is being burned outside of the barrel. It's very similar to stack fires in rich running aircraft (another can of worms). Hence the Mosin's muzzle flash being visible during the day is a result of powder being burned outside of the barrel (too much).

As far as your point on "exploding Mosins" not likely. You can add a lot of extra powder to most bolt action rifles (Mauser's and pre/early war Arisaka's especially) without much chance of a catastrophic failure. Heck, a lot of companies usually end up loading something in the order of 3 times too much powder before they get a catastrophic failure involving the action, typically it's the barrel that goes first.

Anyways, we're talking about British .303, and German 7.92 and 20mm guns. Posting a soviet plane has little to do with Spit/Hurri/BF-109/110 visible muzzle flashes during the day.

Muzzle flashes under most conditions with regards to the planes involved in the Battle of Britain are not visible during the day.
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:53 PM
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Anyways, we're talking about British .303, and German 7.92 and 20mm guns. Posting a soviet plane has little to do with Spit/Hurri/BF-109/110 visible muzzle flashes during the day.
Hate to break this to you, but the IL-2 had 20mm and 7.62mm guns, so the comparison stands. Besides, it's not as if WWII powder loads among the various nations were greatly disparate.
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