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View Poll Results: Would you sacrifice small graphical issues in order to be able to use 6-DoF
Yes I could cope with this as it would add to my flying experience 270 85.44%
No, I'd rather have my head on a fixed stick thanks you very much 46 14.56%
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:44 AM
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BTW: 190 vs 37 ... My oppinion is, that the orientation should not be to please the 85%, but to convince the 15% instead. Then the task is done.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:10 AM
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"BTW: 190 vs 37 ... My opinion is, that the orientation should not be to please the 85%, but to convince the 15% instead. Then the task is done. "

Hi Caspar, interesting the way you put that, but look back earlier and the percentage was only 80. Surely the vote is going the correct way?

I know it seems there have been a couple of attempts to drag this one off-topic, and thanks to those of you who dragged it back.

This is a request that if the Poll is considered, that the OPTION of switching 6-DoF is given to the Users of the Sim, not that you will be enforced to use it if you don't want to!!

As has been put before, it is up to the user of the Sim to decide what hardware they invest in. I have a Modded Cougar, Track IR and Rudder Pedals. I don't 'need' them, but I wanted to invest in my hobby and make my experience online and offline as immersive as possible.

Some people don't use a stick, some don't use tracking devices but to say that everyone cannot have 6-DoF because not all of us have Tracking devices is rather like saying "I ride a push-bike so you can't have petrol for your car!" If you invest in the Hardware, surely it would be nice to offer the Individual the 'switchable' Option of whether they can use it or decide to leave it switched off?

What I am requesting is that a switch be added to enable or disable 6-DoF and for the User to decide which they prefer.

Look, some people may not like the 6-DoF to be active once they have tried it.......but they can then (if there was an optional switch) turn it off?

It's like the argument (in a broad sense) of watching Violence on TV. No-one says you have to watch it....that's what the switch is for.

All I'm requesting is a switch, nothing more, nothing less!

(Then after that get on to adding updated p-51's )

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I know it seems there have been a couple of attempts to drag this one off-topic, and thanks to those of you who dragged it back.
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Probably guilty, sorry, but the Tempest rear view question is even relevant in 6DOF.
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Probably guilty, sorry, but the Tempest rear view question is even relevant in 6DOF.
only in terms of the point of view. the armour plate is fine.

reading comprehension levels round here are appalling.
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only in terms of the point of view. the armour plate is fine.

reading comprehension levels round here are appalling
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:47 AM
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All I'm requesting is a switch, nothing more, nothing less!

Cheers, MP
You mean, even if someone has a tracking device, he should be able to choose between 4DoF and 6DoF? Maybe expanding the conf.ini entry:

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UseTIR = 0,1,2 (off, 4DoF, 6DoF)

Not sure, if its possible, but will be considered if the time has come.
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:26 AM
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Wether in 2DOF or 6DOF, the internal POV can be changed for rearward view advantage by simply 'toggling gunsights' in normal view and having this assigned to your hatswitch for example. There are numerous view controls that can be used for 'view' advantage in both 2DOF and 6DOF.

Interestingly, the ability to enable/disable any axis during flight is a feature included in Freetrack (and extremely useful) but why add axis options in Config when you can do that in your HT software interface?

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I just have a key set for > FOV and < FOV on a MACRO with a .060 repeat.. It is almost as smooth as having it on a slider.. and does the job very nicely.
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You mean, even if someone has a tracking device, he should be able to choose between 4DoF and 6DoF? Maybe expanding the conf.ini entry:

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UseTIR = 0,1,2 (off, 4DoF, 6DoF)

Not sure, if its possible, but will be considered if the time has come.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:18 AM
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Hello all,

Just to lay the PoV discussion to rest, I submit the following pictures both taken using the un-zoomed view in the Macchi C.205, with keypad-1 pressed (for rear port-side view). The comparison is of the 4.09 Macchi versus the 4.10 Macchi and shows the effect of the different PoV settings from one patch to the next (as described in the 4.10 readme and by Caspar earlier in this thread). Note that the headrest in the 4.09 Macchi takes up ~40% of the screen area, while the it only takes up ~20% in 4.10. Forward visiblity is affected by the changes, as one would expect, but I don't feel that it is any worse in the new patch (it may actually be better--I haven't fought enough in the Macchi to be able to speak with authority). You can see the entire gunsight reticle in the 4.10 Macchi (the edges of it are often clipped in the distant gunsight of the 4.09 C.205)...It's almost as though the gunsight was supposed to be viewed from the closer distance ...Thanks DT for that fix. In any case, I think this is the natural way to deal with the Tempest's visibility issues.

Cheers,

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P.S. This post is not intended to re-divert this thread away from 6DoF discussions but merely to provide closure to those worried about the Tempest...I will say no more about the matter.
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