Friday update and duscussions 2011-02-18

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo

I am arguing that a wide road in 1940 is as narrow as a country lane of today.

that is simply not true

having lived in Kent (southern england) for 6 years i know very well what country roads look like. many of the smallest ones are still single-car-wide only, with intermittent spots where one car can pull over to let another past

you seem to be presuming the whole of england exclusively had roads like that and it is simply not true. most roads allowed for traffic in both directions and were significantly wider, and many in the 40's had grass verges on either side to, its not as if they were lined by trees immediately next to them

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo

You seem to be assuming that a road of today is the same width as a road of yesteryear. I (correct me if I am wrong here) am thinking that you are assuming that a highway of today is equivalent to a major thorough fair of 1940,

i shall correct you, that is not at all what i thought (or posted)

and i suspect what you believe is an arterial road not covered by trees is instead a river in that screenshot

[furbs]

Much as i hate to say it
Zapista is right...the road does vanish into a forrest.
maybe the forrest is auto gened after the road system?

[No601_Swallow]

Originally Posted by zapatista

that is simply not true

having lived in Kent (southern england) for 6 years i know very well what country roads look like. many of the smallest ones are still single-car-wide only, with intermittent spots where one car can pull over to let another past

you seem to be presuming the whole of england exclusively had roads like that and it is simply not true. most roads allowed for traffic in both directions and were significantly wider, and many in the 40's had grass verges on either side to, its not as if they were lined by trees immediately next to them

And having lived in London and ventured regularly into Kent (shudder - the countryside - yeuch!) all my life, I'm amazed to hear you've never driven down a two-lane road canopied-over with interlocking tree boughs. A-roads in this day and age are like autobahns from 30's Germany (and then some, as our Yank cousins would say), and the UK had nothing of the like in the 30s (thank God!).

I have to say: even after all these years, I'm mystified at the begrudgery and mean-spiritedness shown by us simmers. These shots are truly stunning and beautiful. I'm more than willing to live with realistic-looking forests that encroach on rural thoroughfares, because it's in a landscape I never thought would be possible to achieve (so much richer than even "hi-res" FSX sceneries). I'm even willing to live my own pet gripe (the colour of the roofs of English houses - would make the single biggest impact on the 'flavour' of the landscape -i.m.h.o...) because I have to pinch myself to believe the effort being expended by these skilled and dedicated souls to make my hobby even better and more immersive. I honestly want to say "shame on you" to the begrudgers and belittlers, but I won't, because life's too short.

So: thank you Oleg and the "Valiant 22".

Edit: And before anyone says that the roads have grown, or were wider somehow, think of how the forests throughout England have shrunk over the past 70 years. If anything forests should be encroaching more!

[No601_Swallow]

And compare roads in CoD screenshots with IL2. I honestly can't understand why people are whining.

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by zapatista

that is simply not true

having lived in Kent (southern england) for 6 years i know very well what country roads look like. many of the smallest ones are still single-car-wide only, with intermittent spots where one car can pull over to let another past

you seem to be presuming the whole of england exclusively had roads like that and it is simply not true. most roads allowed for traffic in both directions and were significantly wider, and many in the 40's had grass verges on either side to, its not as if they were lined by trees immediately next to them



i shall correct you, that is not at all what i thought (or posted)

and i suspect what you believe is an arterial road not covered by trees is instead a river in that screenshot

I do see the road you are referring to in the lower left that disappears into a forest, but I'd like to point out that it also does in fact completely disappear from the map in all other ways too. There is no bridge across the river or any other hint of that road continuing. I live in the U.S. (admittedly) but still have a sense of what a 2 lane road with grass verges is like as I grew up on such a road. It did in fact disappear into the canopy. There were huge tracts that were completely shaded and would be indiscernible from above.

My impression of U.K. rural roads are that many of them served as major thorough fares (much like the U.S.) up until the 1950s if I am incorrect in this assumption I apologize, but I am equally sure that my assesment is correct. Even our famous route 66 disappears into the canopies of forested land for large tracts.

[Mad G]

S!

Gents,

They improved colors like these last pics of today, but see this:

Original



Irfanview gama and saturation moddified


Irfanview gama and saturation moddified



Irfanview gama and saturation moddified WOP style


So, which appeals to you most? Easily configured in your GPU driver panel control.

SP!

[Ctrl E]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Ask that in another thread.

can i also ask if the release date has changed? it's hardly an unreasonable question. i would have thought it would be the major one!

[BadAim]

Holy #(*&^&$*&. Give it a break naysayers. Don't buy the game. Just don't freaking buy it. I'll never give a *&(^$ if you buy it or not, I just don't want to hear your *&^%$# whining any more. SHUT UP!

I'm sorry if I've offended any retarded idiot shits, I've been drinking and my filters are down. Please don't think I have some kind of vendetta against you. I don't, I've just run out of patience. Stupid people try my patience, that's all. So if you are one of those who choose to be willfully ignorant, I'm truly and deeply sorry that I cannot compromise what I believe for you.

2nd edit: I'm sure I'll regret this tomorrow, but I don't care tonight, so &^%$$ you if you think Oleg is an a$$hole, I happen to think quite highly of him and the whole rest of his team too.

[Ctrl E]

Originally Posted by BadAim

Holy #(*&^&$*&. Give it a break naysayers. Don't buy the game. Just don't freaking buy it. I'll never give a *&(^$ if you buy it or not, I just don't want to hear your *&^%$# whining any more. SHUT UP!

mate - i'm not saying i don't want to buy it. to the contrary, I'm hanging out to buy it and i think the screens look good. i am just asking politely and quite reasonably whether the release date has changed.

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by Mad G

S!

Gents,

They improved colors like these last pics of today, but see this:

Original



Irfanview gama and saturation moddified


Irfanview gama and saturation moddified



Irfanview gama and saturation moddified WOP style


So, which appeals to you most? Easily configured in your GPU driver panel control.

SP!

In all honesty the first image looks the most realistic to me. The others look like movie or cartoon interpretations. The third doesn't look bad, but still obviously filtered.