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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-11-2011, 05:14 PM
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try to PM oleg,

speculationm, after the "repeat please" who else would be the renegade pilots
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:09 PM
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I really hate this one (,,repeat please"). Well, not the scene itself, but how they presented polish pilots and WHEN!!! The real situation:
30th of August. 303rd squadron was ,,playing with blenheims" and suddenly Ludwik Paszkiewicz (read: Loodvik Pu(like ,,u" in word ,,duck")shkievich) spotted formation of enemy planes. He reported this to John Kent, squadron leader. Kent ordered them to cover blenheims and head home, but Paszkiewicz was too angry on Brits for not allowing experienced pilots to fight, broke off and shot down a 110. Then he spotted that he's ALONE and turned back. Now what we see in the movie:
Second week of september. ,,T5" is training. Suddenly, polish pilot spots german formation and starts dialogue: ,,Germans! Germans, down there!" ,,I don't see them, where?" ,,Down there, to the right! I'm going for them!" ,,I see them". Then dialogue which everyone here understood (because in english). Later some screamings; ,,I have him!" ,,I'm behind you!" ,,Bastards are shooting at us". Then ,,I've got him! He's hit, son of a bi*ch" ,,He's smoking" (explosion) ,,I'm going out to the right". Kent screams at them to shut up.
The most unacceptable thing for me isn't showing them talking in polish, but showing them as a group of old kids which can't sit in one place and are too excited to remember english, which, by the way, was well known by them at the moment. And the date. On 7th of september they shot down 13 Do 17s and couple of 109s (I'm not sure about Messers) and forced the 40-bomber formation to turn back to France. So showing incorrect actions from 30th of august as actions from 7th+ of september is deleting their earlier actions (i.e. the first official combat mission from 31st of august, in which flight A shot down 6 Me 109s without losing or even having damaged a single fighter and flight B wasn't in action). It's scandal!
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:28 PM
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to be honet with you, the movie never deminished the polish and i never saw them as old kids. i dint ment to insult you. My favorite scene on the movie to be honest, good humor and somewhat of inspiring side story. I normally like scenes where the ones who dont get recognized finnally get so.

bad example of mine, i apologize.
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Old 02-11-2011, 06:44 PM
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You couldn't expect what my sick head would think But turning back to features, do you think telling about those things you've pointed and taking more from experience of this guy who flew 109 not so long ago is enough? Maybe I should write that AI has own ,,personalities" and is *DRASTICALLY* better than old one and that it's a new game on own engine, uninstall-overable? And tell that engine is so complex that even pistons work separately and can be damaged without damaging the rest of engine. Or that pilot will be able to jump in to other plane's cockpit.
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:30 PM
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i advise you to avoid comaprissions with old il2.

saying AI is better than the old, means 0 to one who knows not old. Saying its a new system, better than anyone, or something more fancy, with no comparisson is better. Mentioning personnality is good. I would prefer not go into detail. saying pistos can be damaged = not interesting for "noobs" saying wings can break off in 100 different ways, and planes will explode in other 100 different = this is awsome reaction.

my opinion is that you shold try to sell the game to those who would normally not knew about it. flight sim is a tight community, and most who already here are aware of il2 and its sucessor. a pc magazine is most likely read by FPS RPG and other more "common" games. i used to read this mags, until i got hooked to il2 to the point of barely playing nothing else, i eventually gave up on this mags becouse it had no games of my interest.
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