IL2 CoD level bombing sight

T}{OR · #1 02-10-2011, 08:11 AM

A big +1 on the bombing techniques in one of the next updates. I have been asking to see that particular aspect of the game for quite some time now.

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Originally Posted by The_Pharoah

(ie. having to fly the plane whilst in the bomb aimers position at the same time)

I do presume that you know how to use level stabilizer?

For all other info about how to conduct pinpoint precise level bombing in IL2 consult to my manual below.

swiss · #2 02-10-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by T}{OR

I do presume that you know how to use level stabilizer?

And the rudder trim for corrections while above is engaged.

robtek · #3 02-10-2011, 12:46 PM

What really is needed is a manual how to calculate and compensate the wind-drift with the Bomb sight

ECV56_Guevara · #4 02-10-2011, 12:52 PM

+10. Bombers pilots will love to see it!

Flying Pencil · #5 02-10-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by robtek

What really is needed is a manual how to calculate and compensate the wind-drift with the Bomb sight

It is calculated in bombsight

robtek · #6 02-10-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Pencil

It is calculated in bombsight

Oh, i am aware of that, the problem i wanted to adress is: how to get the numbers to put into the bombsight to compensate for the wind-drift.
In the B-17 there was a instrument where the bombardier (or was it the navigator?) could watch the ground passing and by adjusting some lines could determine the direction and strength of the wind in his altitude.

Blackdog_kt · #7 02-10-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Reasonable? I think it is pathetic. I don't understand the need to take a great game like IL-2 with its great gameplay and turn it into a dumbed down AI monster for the sake of realism. It seems to be a common theme on this board. "The pilot couldn't jump to the gunner station in real life...the navigator didn't fly the plane in real life...the bombadier didn't shoot the guns in real life...etc." I keep my fingers crossed that the CoD developers ignore this stuff. Il-2 is a great game already. Let's keep it that way.

I keep my fingers crossed that they don't subscribe to such all out "black or white" logic and do something that lets us both do what we want. After all it's better both for the community and sales to keep as much people as possible reasonably happy, than have half the people be absolutely ecstatic and the other half very disappointed

What i'd like to see in the future is some kind of support for an AI scripting tool. Flying with other humans as crew would be awesome, but flying in single player wouldn't have to feel like an empty aircraft anymore if the AI could be programmed to call out bandits or the bomb aimers and navigators could provide steering instructions to the pilot.

What you refer to as an AI monster is simply a way to substitute the lack of a human crew in a multi-seat aircraft, which was complex enough to require more than one person to handle it. By all means, don't use such a feature if you don't like it, i'm not here to tell you how to enjoy your gaming. I just don't like blanket statements and prefer having options for everyone

The_Pharoah · #8 02-10-2011, 09:33 PM

thanks for the replies (+ve and -ve) - my point is, I'd like to see something about how level bombing will be done in CoD and, no, I don't intend to sit in the bombardier's position the whole time.

sure level stabilizer works to a point but it is very cumbersome and difficult to use. Have you tried to line up the bombsight on a target using level stabilizer?

Hoverbug · #9 02-10-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by robtek

Oh, i am aware of that, the problem i wanted to adress is: how to get the numbers to put into the bombsight to compensate for the wind-drift.
In the B-17 there was a instrument where the bombardier (or was it the navigator?) could watch the ground passing and by adjusting some lines could determine the direction and strength of the wind in his altitude.

Yes, the navigator had a Gatty-type drift meter (B-3 or B-5), but the Norden calculated drift far better than the drift meter. The only reason that the Norden wasn't used for this all of the time is that the gyros couldn't be spun up foe the duration of the flight.

Flying Pencil · #10 02-14-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by robtek

Oh, i am aware of that, the problem i wanted to adress is: how to get the numbers to put into the bombsight to compensate for the wind-drift.
In the B-17 there was a instrument where the bombardier (or was it the navigator?) could watch the ground passing and by adjusting some lines could determine the direction and strength of the wind in his altitude.

I believe the Lotfe had that built in, much like the Norden, but I can't read old German (Yes, I have copy of Lotfe manual).