4.101 RC - List of fixes

[[URU]BlackFox]

I can only say... Let us hope that the happenings with the spit are the beginning of the end for the UFOs in this game.

TD seems to have researched before making every change. Sure, in the case of the bombs there has been a long discussion already, but i saw papers thrown on the table, not just complaints in the wind, and they are willing to change things that are well documented.

So, with some RL data, maybe you can get them to revert the changes.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by PE_Tihi

...I dont know whether I should laugh or weep.

Whining is pretty close to weeping, so guess that would be the best thing to do.

[mazex]

Well, I've asked this before - but if there is a way to add a conf.ini option to disable TrackIR while in external view? It get's really weird controlling the external view with TrackIR for me at least. Most other sims have it this way as default... And yes - a lot of us enjoy to fly with external views enabled.

This should be rather easy I guess?

Edit as martinstripes is correct regarding his comments and my request above may sound more like a demand than a request Thanks for all your hard work! I have said it before and will say it again!

[TitusFlavius]

When arrives the patch 4.101?

[martinistripes]

Sorry to be a little off topic but...

I am just astounded by how rude and ungrateful some people can be. First of all, this is a game, that you play for 'fun'. And secondly, the amount of time and effort TD have poured into this, I for one am very grateful for every single adjustment they make. You only have to take a look at the Silent Hunter series to see just how 'different' things can be when it comes to patches and support!

For those with the red mist and steam coming out their ears, maybe a few deep breaths and a healthy dose of real life is in order.

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by JtD

Whining is pretty close to weeping, so guess that would be the best thing to do.

You wont find a single word of insult in the closed thread or in this one; so how do you justify your persistent tries to insult me in your posts?

Is that something you usually do when you don't like the other people's opinions?

[JtD]

Hm, let me check your first post in that closed topic ... insult ... insult ... insult ... insult. You know, accusing people of bias and sabotage is pretty insulting as such. In particular if you pull these accusations out of thin air, with nothing to back it up.

And you wonder why the responses weren't all nice an charming?

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by JtD

"The aeroplane ... tends to be a little unstable in pitch "

From Spitfire pilot handbook.

If you're not interested in real life comparison, you can go the the difficulty section and turn off "stalls and spins".

Fighter planes are no airliners to be designed with a stone steady stability. More stable the design, less maneuverable it gets. Moreover, ever bigger engines brought the planes more destabilizing area in front of the CG, as well as more engine torgue to burden their stabillity.
The answer to that, on the example of the yaw stability was an increase of the vertical tail area. Compare the vertical tails of the early and later variants of the WWII fighters. Now if you think this has been unknown to the Supermerine engineers, please compare the tails of the variants beginning with I, then V, VIII and IX, XIV, etc.

It is rather obvious the Spitfire couldn't have been in a quite a different world in matters of stabillity compared to its contemporaries, isn't it?
But in the 4.10 the Spitfire has a third league stabillity compared to all the rest of game planes.

In all probability the game planes behave rather more benign in this sense then their RL counterparts. Until 4.10 that went for all the planes, including the Spitfire. Even the I16. which really has been rather unstable in the RL behaves stone-steady as a gun platform in the game.
Now the 4.10 makes the Spifire the only exception to this general oscillation amnesty, giving it the dubious honor of being the only plane to wallow around in a manner the DT considers a realistic one.

Can it really be the unfairness of such a move never even crosses your mind?

It seems not to, 'cause you repeat like a gramophone about the Spit FM RL comparison. (apart from repeatedly telling me I whine and express the skepsis at my abilities to control the game planes)

I feel the oscillations on the Spit being overdone in 4.10; the guys who made the FM are probbably going to say it s reallistic, but even if it is so, it is completely beside the point.

It is totally unfair to give only this one single plane the allegedly and possibly more reallistic but certainly much more difficult type of FM.

Or is the fairness a concept you simply do not care care for?

BTW, you are right about the NACA report discussing the dynamical stability of the plane; I only swept over it with my eyes the first time.
Your insulting tone is certainly not right, on the other hand, and having tolerated it on several occasions - don't bother continuing in that manner if you expect an answer.

[Nicholaiovitch]

Originally Posted by mazex

Well, I've asked this before - but if there is a way to add a conf.ini option to disable TrackIR while in external view? It get's really weird controlling the external view with TrackIR for me at least. Most other sims have it this way as default... And yes - a lot of us enjoy to fly with external views enabled.

This should be rather easy I guess?

You can enable the "Hotkey-Pause" from within TR/IR 5 software when in external view....I guess you have already tried that?

Nicholaiovitch

[robtek]

It seems the days of the "Luftwhiner" are gone: "RAFwhiner" is here.
Only that the spit has been a very, very stable gun-platform, close to stall,
the last years in this game, doesn't make this "written in stone" correct.