Friday 2011-02-04 Dev. update and Discussion

[Meusli]

Hypernova let me tell you now, this will be a killer sim. The best in the world, in fact. So go out and buy it when it's ready and don't post things that will make you look silly next month.

[kendo65]

Hypernova - have you heard the old saying about the 'best laid plans'?

Perfection probably was the goal, but reality unfortunately decided it would have to be delayed temporarily.

Rest assured that just about everyone with an interest in the game (and certainly, I'm sure, the devs) feels disappointed that it will initially be without some much sought-after features.

There is a commitment though that they will be added in time. So a degree of patience will be required.

Try not to take it so personally. The devs didn't didn't do it deliberately to spite you.

[fireflyerz]

Originally Posted by Ravenous

Uhm, I'm not going to tell you what to feel or anything, but i want you to consider what you are saying here: you are telling him that you are "very very dissapointed" with CoD because they could'nt afford to send about a truckload of equipment from Moscow to Britain to record a real Merlin and Daimler-Benz engine, and that vehicle crew slipped their mind for the time being... You are infact so dissapointed by this that you don't want to buy CoD unless someone you trust says it's a killer sim...

The way I see this is: OK, they don't have a real Merlin/DB engine, BUT they recorded real engines of other planes and engineered the sound to be a stand-in for them. As far as i know, that seems to be the only way they could get their hands on the engine sounds of, say a Zero..or even a M163 Comet etc. etc.

So to me this is just as good as the real thing when you realize that they aren't just half-assing this by slapping the sounds of a lawnmower in there and then call it a Tiger Moth.. they have professional equipment and i'd assume that since they could have recorded the real thing if they had access, their sound engineer is most likely a professional too.

Besides, Luthier already said that the sound feels right, and I'll take his word for it.. You've been waiting for 5+ years? I would have assumed that you have seen these people's passion for what they do, so i would have thought that you could take his word too untill you could judge it for youself..Or do you consider 50-ish dollars or whatever your currency is, to be waaaay too much to pay for something that is supposed to be the successor of IL2 in every way when it gets off the ground?

Two of the most famous aircraft in the world one with an instantly recognisable engine note , the other being one of my favorite engine sounds "db.600.series" the cost of audio equipment is under £500 and the rest is some polite airfield diplomacy , a favour or two and knowing how to place yourself via the conditions , the editing....childs play , but what do I know and its like you said , so what if a spit sounds like a skyvan.

[winny]

Come on people, stop judging Developers updates by Marketing campaign standards

Hopefully Ubi will start to push this professionally, if they don't (Should probably have already started!) than that's when we should be complaining.. On the Ubi forum that is.

In fact, get over there now and start kicking off...

[el0375]

i think taht we owe a big thank you to luthier now as he tried to aswer dozens of questions.
THANK YOU! You and all the team

[Ravenous]

Originally Posted by fireflyerz

Two of the most famous aircraft in the world one with an instantly recognisable engine note , the other being one of my favorite engine sounds "db.600.series" the cost of audio equipment is under £500 and the rest is some polite airfield diplomacy , a favour or two and knowing how to place yourself via the conditions , the editing....childs play , but what do I know and its like you said , so what if a spit sounds like a skyvan.

I didn't say i don't care what it sounds like at all, i said that i doubt they'll just record a lawnmower and call it a Tiger Moth..

and Luthier said that they had engineered the sounds of the engine of a russian (can't remember if it was a fighter) plane to sounds like the real thing..
it's not like the 109 is going to sound like a piper cub..atleast not as far as i can understand.. and just to clarify: the same goes for the spitfire..i doubt it'll sound like skyvan

oh, and
"We're still working on sounds. Engine and gun sounds are pretty good in my opinion, but a lot of people will take some time to get used to them because they're not what you expect, especially guns as heard from inside the cockpit. We got some funny bug reports about that from some beta testers.

You can hear outside noises, yes. As you should. We can argue this based both on memoirs and on scientific formulas."

and
"We couldn't record the real Merlin or a Daimler Benz or basically any real engine from BoB era due to a limited budget. There aren't any in Russia, and we couldn't fly out our sound engineer to the UK or Germany with all his equipment.

We do have the recordings of the real engines of course made with various Russian aircraft this summer. Using advanced SFX magic we transformed our samples to sound the way we needed."

doesn't really give me the impression that all you need is a laptop and a singstar-mic to record it in BINAURAL audio

[el0375]

IN my opinion teh sound will be good, i have never heard a merlin engine but i will be very enthusiastic that teh tried to put soem similar one, for teh budged they hav ethis is very nice job. I might understand that for some people this is an important thing but in order to see mor ethings added up, all will depend on game success, i hope it will

[Abbeville-Boy]

sounds were terrible in years after the first release
they got to be better
in cod
cant be worse

[meplay]

Originally Posted by fireflyerz

Two of the most famous aircraft in the world one with an instantly recognisable engine note , the other being one of my favorite engine sounds "db.600.series" the cost of audio equipment is under £500 and the rest is some polite airfield diplomacy , a favour or two and knowing how to place yourself via the conditions , the editing....childs play , but what do I know and its like you said , so what if a spit sounds like a skyvan.

I hope you get hold of them mod tools

[Peffi]

There are many engine recordings available for every airplane we are going to fly in CoD. No need to go anywhere just to make own recordings. I very much doubt engine sound will be an issue for serious complaints. It is less than 2 months until we will have our hands on this sim and everything we want to know and Luthier patiently answers now will be answered then. If you are unsure you want to buy the game, then wait for some days after the release and read the reviews before you decide. Really simple really.