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Old 01-26-2011, 04:22 PM
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Nothing has been changed about rocket or bomb blast radius, small bombs usually had a safety mechanism or some other altitude restriction. Torpedoes had particular release limits that went both ways, minimum and maximum. The Japanese torpedo works from 200m away.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:03 PM
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No AO-10 are more powerful?

I personally like using bomblets from higher altitude (eg. in the Il-2). However, it is difficult while flying aircraft which only carry four AO-10.
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:28 PM
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@Blackdog: i know about the angle etc. there saying to low ad its gonna skip on the water...
Sure thats true if you for example try to drop a Mk13-Late from 30 meters at 400Km/h, but not if your droping it at 30 meters and 205Km/h.

On the Blast Radius of the Bombs, something was changed because everyone i fly with is complaining about the bobs being less effective.

IL-2 flew at verry low altitude over the battleflield dropping bomblets on the ground targets, at less than 50 meters in altitude, you cant do that anymore now.

Also i think the torps should be set at 200 meters runtime in the water, or maybe even less for japanese torpedoes so you can do the 2 raids mentioned above.
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:36 PM
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IL-2 flew at verry low altitude over the battleflield dropping bomblets on the ground targets, at less than 50 meters in altitude, you cant do that anymore now.
You can as of 4.101.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:58 PM
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@Blackdog: i know about the angle etc. there saying to low ad its gonna skip on the water...
Sure thats true if you for example try to drop a Mk13-Late from 30 meters at 400Km/h, but not if your droping it at 30 meters and 205Km/h.

On the Blast Radius of the Bombs, something was changed because everyone i fly with is complaining about the bobs being less effective.

IL-2 flew at verry low altitude over the battleflield dropping bomblets on the ground targets, at less than 50 meters in altitude, you cant do that anymore now.

Also i think the torps should be set at 200 meters runtime in the water, or maybe even less for japanese torpedoes so you can do the 2 raids mentioned above.
If you are too slow the angle of the torpedo is too steep -> as bad as too fast!
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:56 PM
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IL-2 flew at verry low altitude over the battleflield dropping bomblets on the ground targets, at less than 50 meters in altitude, you cant do that anymore now.
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You can as of 4.101.
You can do it now. Minimum drop height with the new bomb fusing is 25 meters. That happens to be less than 50 meters.
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Old 01-27-2011, 08:14 AM
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If you are too slow the angle of the torpedo is too steep -> as bad as too fast!
Not if your lower and slower than the drop speed, you can also see this with Torpedo bomber footage and pictures on the internet where they are just a few meters of the waves (less than 10) wen droping there torpedoes.

If your flying at the recomended drop hight and are going to slow than the torpedo will nose dive yes, and if your flying to low at the recomended speed than it will skip.
but if your flying low and slow the torp will hit the water correctly.



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Old 01-27-2011, 09:00 AM
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The problem with pictures is that it's hard to tell what happened just prior to and after the shot was taken.

Regarding the TBD, it's not really possible to tell how high he is. It depends a lot on the height of the camera. If the plane is low, then consider that the torpedo is slung with the nose down rather than perfectly horizontal.

Regarding the G4Ms, it's quite possible their torpedoes did not arm. It's also possible that they are hanging low to avoid flak and will bounce up at the last possible moment to release their torps. One has to ask because there is also a Betty that is close to the appropriate drop height.

The lowest drop-height mentioned that I can find is 23 meters, the vast majority of sources saying 30 meters or so. I can't find anything describing successful wave-height releases. Even if it was even possible by going slower, you would be putting yourself at great risk to enemy fire by doing so.



At 1:00 you can see the torpedo jump out of the water because it was released too low.

Regarding success at Pearl Harbor, of 40 torpedo planes present, only about 15 fish hit ships (which were totally stationary btw).

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