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Old 01-07-2011, 10:56 PM
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Keep in mind, according to the manual, cluster bombs are not to be released lower than 200m above target.
But I don't keep to the manual you see, I create my own manual , nah seriously, 200 meters guarantees hits on at least 1 target, but I think it's still to spread out, 50 to a 100 is good for tight moving columns after having made some 15 sorties with the Henschel online over enemy targets.
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Old 01-08-2011, 02:51 AM
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Keep in mind, according to the manual, cluster bombs are not to be released lower than 200m above target.
(german-)cluster bombs are a waste of time anyway.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:57 AM
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Thanks for the help with the documents Talonite.

I ran some tests, however, and the aiming guides don't seem to work as advertised

Dropping from 50 meters using the second indicator from the top works almost perfectly.

However, dropping from 100 meters, I had to use an area between the 3rd and 4th indicators.

From 100 meters, using the 3rd indicator led to the bombs falling short. The same occured at 200 using the 4th indicator.

All drops were done at almost exactly 300 kph, straight and level.

I don't know what the reason for the differences could be, but for now, I think I'll stick to dropping from 50-100 meters.
Without 6DOF, all plates (maybe except 50m one) are misaligned with your line of sight. Although misalignment may look minor, it translates to not so small error.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:58 AM
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(german-)cluster bombs are a waste of time anyway.
Really now? How often have you used them?
If used properly they are devastating!
The cluster bombs used at high level are ideal for clearing enemy air bases in almost one sweep!
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:54 PM
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Really now? How often have you used them?
If used properly they are devastating!
The cluster bombs used at high level are ideal for clearing enemy air bases in almost one sweep!
It is a fact that Russian ones in the game are better somehow, but the new AB/23 certainly does do it´s job good for the low level attacks!

One question though, and I've always wondered why, if you drop a big AB bomb, what the heck are those weird smoke plume thingies which litter the battlefield? Almost looks like a gas attack from the WW1
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:05 PM
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It is a fact that Russian ones in the game are better somehow, but the new AB/23 certainly does do it´s job good for the low level attacks!

One question though, and I've always wondered why, if you drop a big AB bomb, what the heck are those weird smoke plume thingies which litter the battlefield? Almost looks like a gas attack from the WW1
Those are small bomblets exploding, they are fairly small. I have the casing of an original here at home, it has a lenght of 17cm over all, bomb with out the rear winglets 8cm and a diameter of 6cm. They are nasty little things depending on the versions, the anti tank ones can not be defuses as they have hollow charges and extrem delicate detonators.
On my screen shot AB1000 where used.
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Old 01-08-2011, 02:38 PM
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Really now? How often have you used them?
If used properly they are devastating!
The cluster bombs used at high level are ideal for clearing enemy air bases in almost one sweep!
Ok, I was talking about <AB1000.
...the smaller ones really suck.
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Old 01-08-2011, 06:09 PM
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Without 6DOF, all plates (maybe except 50m one) are misaligned with your line of sight. Although misalignment may look minor, it translates to not so small error.
Yes, that's true, and I corrected for this However, they still seem "off".
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:32 PM
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Yes, that's true, and I corrected for this However, they still seem "off".
Just as a thought, you drop on targets, that are at true 0m ?
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Old 01-09-2011, 01:45 AM
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I can't translate, but noticed that Page 27 of the Hs 129A-B Abwurfwaffee.pdf you link to has these numbers listed:

10m / 85 degrees

50m / 78.5 degrees

100m / 74 degrees

200m / 68 degrees


We know with the 2 second fuse that the 10m option is a no go. But the others,
we can use bombsight table 2 to back into the required IAS. 280 kph seems to be the magic number for the rest. I haven't tested yet.
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