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Old 12-28-2010, 11:35 AM
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From the German sturmovik forum:



Zünder: fuze
Entsicherungszeit: arming time
Waagrechtflug: level flight
blind: blind/disarmed
teilweise: partly
scharf: armed
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:34 PM
I/ZG52_Gaga I/ZG52_Gaga is offline
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Did anyone manage to attack a single tank with the 2 sec arming delay?

Dudes! we are in a world of pain !!! LOL

I guess we have to adapt eh?
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:40 PM
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Did anyone manage to attack a single tank with the 2 sec arming delay?

Dudes! we are in a world of pain !!! LOL

I guess we have to adapt eh?
Yes, moving tanks with 4 x SC 50
fifty/fifty chance to hit and destroy the moving tank in 4.10

@wutz:
I´m preferring Bomber / Jabo flights, so don´t call me a fighter jock please
and: no need to get personal!

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Old 12-28-2010, 01:37 PM
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Did anyone manage to attack a single tank with the 2 sec arming delay?

Dudes! we are in a world of pain !!! LOL

I guess we have to adapt eh?
u need 2 l2p



Seriously, I would myself appreciate ground pounding more if it would not be so ez. The same goes with ww2 flight sims in general - I can appreciate the real pilots more if the sim at least even tries to simulate how hard things was in real. So making realistical hard sims would be perhaps the best favor devs can do to the vets. It can help peeps to understand it was not ez in real.
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Old 12-28-2010, 02:09 PM
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I flew a few campaigns using the realistic bombs and torpedo fusing mod, it made bombing much more challenging and entertaining.
I found that it was easier to bomb ships in a 45deg dive than sjip bombing, having practice with that mod i could bomb succesfully in my first 4.10 jabo mission.
To me it made Jabo more atractive, it just harder and demands more practice, you have to focus more, but when you hit the target is much more rewarding
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Old 12-28-2010, 02:24 PM
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I flew a few campaigns using the realistic bombs and torpedo fusing mod, it made bombing much more challenging and entertaining.
I found that it was easier to bomb ships in a 45deg dive than sjip bombing, having practice with that mod i could bomb succesfully in my first 4.10 jabo mission.
To me it made Jabo more atractive, it just harder and demands more practice, you have to focus more, but when you hit the target is much more rewarding
I started yesterday DCG Luftwaffe pilot in Eastern Front campaign in 1./JG5 with Bf 109 E-7/B. Jabo Rules!

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Old 12-28-2010, 02:52 PM
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I flew a few campaigns using the realistic bombs and torpedo fusing mod, it made bombing much more challenging and entertaining.
I found that it was easier to bomb ships in a 45deg dive than sjip bombing, having practice with that mod i could bomb succesfully in my first 4.10 jabo mission.
To me it made Jabo more atractive, it just harder and demands more practice, you have to focus more, but when you hit the target is much more rewarding
Sure but:
As far as I know(haven't tried yet), they didn't change the damage model of the German bombs.
Now, if I get a 2sec delay, but on the other hand an increased blast radius, I'll be fine with that.
Still, expect our kill/sortie ratio will be changed for ever, at least minus 20%.

Something else I fear is the comparison to the IL2.
In 4.09 this bucket could kill about 12 Tiger in a single attack, thanks to their cluster ammo.
I don't know if this is historical correct, I would guess not, as in the other case there must be a Russian "Rudel" pendant with thousands of tank kills...
Wiki says: with PTAB you could kill about 2 tanks in average.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTAB
I have no problem flying home with a few kills less - but I feel castrated in comparison to the uber-IL...

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Old 12-28-2010, 02:58 PM
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Maybe we are just supposed to use the Henschel for ground attack now.
Operation 'Certain Death'...
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Old 12-28-2010, 03:00 PM
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Until as i known and reading books (Air Combat Manouvres) this was the right tactic. They flew very near to the deck to evade enemy fire then climb when approaching the target to release the bombs cause bombs may not explode if dropped too low. I see nothing wrong with the new bomb fusing. I do not understand, what is the real thing then? If its possible to improve, do it in next patches but now is better than 4.09 way.

But this i described above is true, pilots flying very low climbed a little to release the bombs. Instead to be complaining you must develop new tactics.
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Old 12-28-2010, 03:03 PM
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Sure but:
As far as I know(haven't tried yet), they didn't change the damage model of the German bombs.
Now, if I get a 2sec delay, but on the other hand an increased blast radius, I'll be fine with that.
Still, expect our kill/sortie ratio will be changed for ever, at least minus 20%.

Something else I fear is the comparison to the IL2.
In 4.09 this bucket could kill about 12 Tiger in a single attack, thanks to their cluster ammo.
I don't know if this is historical correct, I would guess not, as in the other case there must be a Russian "Rudel" pendant with thousands of tank kills...
Wiki says: with PTAB you could kill about 2 tanks in average.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTAB
I have no problem flying home with a few kills less - but I feel castrated in comparison to the uber-IL...
This because in IL2 tank commanders are idiots They do not use terrain advantage, camouflage, do not use evasive tactics, stay close and aligned under enemy attacks.

All this complains are just because a correct change that turns more difficult to the reds take out the blue armor divisions hehehe... Stop complaining and start to train my puppies.

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