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Old 12-17-2010, 05:37 PM
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You can't go wrong with the thrustmaster. I have had one for over 5 years and its very reliable and works really well.
yeah but which one, the first or the third?
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:46 PM
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Hello guys,

is there any good joystick for left-handed pilots? My ST290 is getting old and flying with this stick becomes more and more difficult. It doesn't keep center position for too long.

Thanks for help
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:57 PM
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Hello guys,

is there any good joystick for left-handed pilots? My ST290 is getting old and flying with this stick becomes more and more difficult. It doesn't keep center position for too long.

Thanks for help
T16000M is reversible. I use the "neutral" set, because you can use it with the hand rest right or left or even without the hand rest, really great for central mouting. And you can "reverse" the buttons with a select key in the base of the joy.
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Old 12-17-2010, 06:08 PM
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T16000M is reversible. I use the "neutral" set, because you can use it with the hand rest right or left or even without the hand rest, really great for central mouting. And you can "reverse" the buttons with a select key in the base of the joy.

Thank You for quick answer. I'm wondering about Your experience with this stick. Since PC Flight Force, which I had 15 years ago, I haven't been able to find any joystick, that was so smooth and precise. Even after tweaking in hardware menu, plane doesn't seem to react smootly with my st290, what makes aiming very difficult.
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:02 PM
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Ok guys, i did some more research.

if im correct it al comes down to the following:

T-Flight Hotas X
+ has a cool throttle
+ ps3 compatible
- unprecise, large deadzone

T-16000m
- lame throttle
+ very precise

is the deadzone issue that big? also i dont play sims like hawx or fsx, i read somewhere that the deadzone differs per sim. I play/gonna play il-2/sow (yeah i'm pretty proud about that ) and i don't know if the deadzone is really annoying/unplayable or just a small/tiny hickup. basicly this deadzone thing is the only thing stopping me from buying the T-Flight HOTAS X
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:20 PM
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I used the T handleThrustmaster in Il-2, Pacific Fighters and Lock On, I never really noticed a dead zone. Its all a matter of taste and comfort, when I bought mine I was able to get the feel of it at the store, they had one out for display. It was really comfortable, and for me that was a major factor.
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:58 PM
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I used the T handleThrustmaster in Il-2, Pacific Fighters and Lock On, I never really noticed a dead zone. Its all a matter of taste and comfort, when I bought mine I was able to get the feel of it at the store, they had one out for display. It was really comfortable, and for me that was a major factor.
thanks man, i appreciate it, since these are the games i'm gonna play alot with this stick.

i'm just gonna let this thread cook for 2 days or so, see if anyone comes with a counterargument as why i should not buy it, and compare the pro's and con's

edit:

totally missed Klem's post

apperently there's ANOTHER interesting stick:



This baby can also be used on the ps3 which is a big pro for me.

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Old 12-18-2010, 10:54 AM
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Currently using one of those Thrustmaster Hotas-X sticks. Rock solid and great performance. I can't find a hotas setup for ~40$ let alone a normal stick that is as well built as this one is. I cant recommend it enough if you are on a tight budget!
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:54 PM
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Go T16000M. For IL-2 and SoW.

HALL in X and Y axis. Mine have more than one year of REALLY HEAVY use, precise as the first day, and in the first week of use I modify if, cut wires, do a lot of "rude" things.

It's the best for the price in the market, by far. The "other" TM has cheap pots in X and Y axis, not so good construction, etc.

For throttle, you can buy some Saitek throttle quadrant, easily in Netherlands. The T16000M is good just in terms of X and Y axis and stick handle buttons. Forget the rest, even the twist handle for rudder input. I use a really cheap steering wheel pedal set as rudder and it works flawless in IL-2. You can easily find one in Netherlands too!

Good luck!
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Old 12-17-2010, 06:59 PM
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yeah but which one, the first or the third?
Sorry, the first one.
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