Which Joystick to buy

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by SEE

I used it for about 3 months with what I would describe as moderate useage!
I actually liked the Cyborg and all of the problems I (and others) encountered can be cured quite easily. It has a big brother in the Cyborg FLY 9 (for Xbox consoles only) which is a much higher quality stick with none of the issues that the cheaper Cyborg X has but of course is much more expensive. Pity Saitek/Madcatz didn't offer it as an alternative for the PC or use the same quality of components and materials in the X model.

At the moment I think your similar to this guy from Father Ted...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEcva...eature=related

[moilami]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

At the moment I think your similar to this guy from Father Ted...

Lol that "moderate usage" made me to think about the same.

[Coen020]

Ok, thanks A LOT for the comments so far.

I think it's safe to say that the cyborg isn't going to the second round.

@albx

lol, yeah it's 'a little bit more' as in more then twice as much, atleast in the Netherlands.


@Furio

Thanks for pointing out that the T-Flight Hotas X does have rudder options, however thanks to you guys i now know it's not very precise...

geez guys, i am now officially lost

PS: @moilami , i dont know exactly what you mean, but i also saw your stick on my online shop and it's even a bit cheaper then the before mentioned sticks, so perhaps this is 'the one'. However NO THROTTLE LEVER

[Biggs [CV]]

You can't go wrong with the thrustmaster. I have had one for over 5 years and its very reliable and works really well.

[Coen020]

Originally Posted by Biggs [CV]

You can't go wrong with the thrustmaster. I have had one for over 5 years and its very reliable and works really well.

yeah but which one, the first or the third?

[TYCZYW01]

Hello guys,

is there any good joystick for left-handed pilots? My ST290 is getting old and flying with this stick becomes more and more difficult. It doesn't keep center position for too long.

Thanks for help

[LoBiSoMeM]

Go T16000M. For IL-2 and SoW.

HALL in X and Y axis. Mine have more than one year of REALLY HEAVY use, precise as the first day, and in the first week of use I modify if, cut wires, do a lot of "rude" things.

It's the best for the price in the market, by far. The "other" TM has cheap pots in X and Y axis, not so good construction, etc.

For throttle, you can buy some Saitek throttle quadrant, easily in Netherlands. The T16000M is good just in terms of X and Y axis and stick handle buttons. Forget the rest, even the twist handle for rudder input. I use a really cheap steering wheel pedal set as rudder and it works flawless in IL-2. You can easily find one in Netherlands too!

Good luck!

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by TYCZYW01

Hello guys,

is there any good joystick for left-handed pilots? My ST290 is getting old and flying with this stick becomes more and more difficult. It doesn't keep center position for too long.

Thanks for help

T16000M is reversible. I use the "neutral" set, because you can use it with the hand rest right or left or even without the hand rest, really great for central mouting. And you can "reverse" the buttons with a select key in the base of the joy.

[moilami]

Originally Posted by Coen020

PS: @moilami , i dont know exactly what you mean, but i also saw your stick on my online shop and it's even a bit cheaper then the before mentioned sticks, so perhaps this is 'the one'. However NO THROTTLE LEVER

It does have a throttle lever, which works very well. Many hate that stick, but Valya has said Extreme 3D Pro does not affect negatively on her flying.


Edit: Oh yeah and I meant with that "it is just a tool" that maybe you should not pay too much attention on the looks of the stick. It is not art

[TYCZYW01]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

T16000M is reversible. I use the "neutral" set, because you can use it with the hand rest right or left or even without the hand rest, really great for central mouting. And you can "reverse" the buttons with a select key in the base of the joy.

Thank You for quick answer. I'm wondering about Your experience with this stick. Since PC Flight Force, which I had 15 years ago, I haven't been able to find any joystick, that was so smooth and precise. Even after tweaking in hardware menu, plane doesn't seem to react smootly with my st290, what makes aiming very difficult.