TD - Please add mid-air structural repairs

[Letum]

Originally Posted by C_G

but seriously, why aren't there any water fountains?

I know!

I bought IL2 when it was first released. One of the first things I noticed
about the game was the lack of water fountains.

There was no cool, refreshing and beautiful spouts of clear, fresh water.
No where could I hear the soothing sound of splashing and dripping.

At first, I assumed that this was an oversight by the developers and it would
be fixed in a patch, but here we are, almost at v4.10 and there are still no
fountains. I don't understand.

I had almost forgotten until last week, but then I had a dream about flying
over a water fountain in a La7 and woke up crying. I hope it gets fixed.

[moilami]

Originally Posted by Letum

I had almost forgotten until last week, but then I had a dream about flying over a water fountain in a La7and woke up crying. I hope it gets fixed.

Rofl

I don't want to read that kind of things or else I may have problems to get into killer mood in today's mission

[Novotny]

I understand that Letum has put forward a strong case for his water fountains however I shall be outraged if TD commence work on this admittedly important feature prior to implementing bacon & eggs.

Currently, we can set fuel, ammunition and pilot skill but no-where can we specify whether or not the pilot has had a good breakfast or not. This is an oversight of flabbergasting proportion.

Breakfasting to the utmost was the greatest secret of the RAF during the Battle of Britain. Though the modeling of this most important meal of the day has admittedly set back the release of BoB by some three years, Oleg recently confirmed that eggy tesselation, though not seen in the recent alpha, has been perfected - there are even wild rumours of black pudding.

That red light in the 109's cockpit did not indicate low air fuel as most have thought up until now: it came on when the staffel's cooks had finally knocked up breakfast and the errant nazi's were recalled for their piddly continental - a poor shadow of the full English, with its insipid orange juice and croissanty nonsense (we have much to thank the French resistance for).

It has long been acknowleged that the Nazi war machine, for all it's tactical nous and tremendous engineering capacity, neglected to fry animal products in a manner befitting its warriors of the air. They'd never even researched brown sauce.

I hope this appalling inaccuracy is finally corrected.

[robtek]

FINALLY A THREAD FOR THE REALLY IMPORTANT PARTS OF FLIGHT SIMS IN GENERAL!

ooops, caps lock

No really, there a so many small but important facts simply overlooked in flight sims.
It makes me really happy to see them get addressed now!

But as usual it is fixed to the already overmuch present pilots
What about the breakfast for the really important people?
The "schwarzen Männer", the aircraft mechanics?
Without them all those glamorous flyboys couldn't stand in the limelight!
Also do not underevaluate dinner and supper!
One part of the downfall of the third reich was the use of reconstituted eggs, "Ersatzkaffee" and "Kunsthonig"!
Especially for the non-flyboys.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Novotny

I understand that Letum has put forward a strong case for his water fountains however I shall be outraged if TD commence work on this admittedly important feature prior to implementing bacon & eggs.

Currently, we can set fuel, ammunition and pilot skill but no-where can we specify whether or not the pilot has had a good breakfast or not. This is an oversight of flabbergasting proportion.

Breakfasting to the utmost was the greatest secret of the RAF during the Battle of Britain. Though the modeling of this most important meal of the day has admittedly set back the release of BoB by some three years, Oleg recently confirmed that eggy tesselation, though not seen in the recent alpha, has been perfected - there are even wild rumours of black pudding.

That red light in the 109's cockpit did not indicate low air fuel as most have thought up until now: it came on when the staffel's cooks had finally knocked up breakfast and the errant nazi's were recalled for their piddly continental - a poor shadow of the full English, with its insipid orange juice and croissanty nonsense (we have much to thank the French resistance for).

It has long been acknowleged that the Nazi war machine, for all it's tactical nous and tremendous engineering capacity, neglected to fry animal products in a manner befitting its warriors of the air. They'd never even researched brown sauce.

I hope this appalling inaccuracy is finally corrected.

Don't try this, just give space and act as support to the creator of the most fun topic ever.

It's priceless! Need to be sticky! And THIS topic need severe moderation! My post and any other without "serious" feedback about what must or not be included in IL-2 need to be deleted ASAP!

Let's keep this topic pure!

[IceFire]

Comedy gold folks! Keep it up! Need some lightheartedness right now... tis the season!

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Can you deliver any trustable sources for.... fountains?

I mean, not those post war reports. Even still existing fountains are mostly made by new spare parts. Is there any original left? We need such sources to do it correctly or none at all. You know...

[Letum]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Can you deliver any trustable sources for.... fountains?

I mean, not those post war reports. Even still existing fountains are mostly made by new spare parts. Is there any original left? We need such sources to do it correctly or none at all. You know...

Hello Casper and thank you for your interest.

First I must make clear that water fountains are a secondary idea of mine.
You should not tackle them until you have the mid-air repairs finished.
That said....


Water fountains where undoubtedly a feature of the Second War. There are
three reasons I can say this so assuredly:

1) The invention of water fountains predates the Second War by over 1000
years and the erection of fountains was wide spread across Europe for a
period of several hundred years leading up to the Second War.

2) At archeological dig sites, fountains have been buried next to confirmed
war items such as war guns, war planes, war documents and war veterans.

3) "The Chronicle of the 20th CenturyKey Events in Nuneaton and district
in the last one hundred years compiled by Peter Lee 1940-49"

Chronicle Four (LINK) of this historical document contains a rare, first hand
account of the role fountains played in the Second War. The Entry for 1940
reads thus:

1940

The water fountain in the Market Place was taken down and the water supply used for a static water tank in connection with air raid precautions. The old stone water fountain was stored for many years in the council yard in Queens Road at the back of the library.

10th January - Nuneaton Citizens Advice Bureau opened.

4th June - RAF Bramcote commissioned.

July - The 1st Polish Squadron came to be stationed at RAF Bramcote. No.300 Masovian, followed by Nos. 301, 304, 305.

20th August - King George VI and Queen Elizabeth paid a secret visit to RAF Bramcote to inspect a squadron of Polish aviators.

28th August - First air raid on Nuneaton. The Luftwaffe bombed Weddington - 1 dead.

14th November - The great blitz on Coventry, a few bombs were dropped around the Nuneaton area.

This not only shows that fountains existed in the war, but it also shows
that they where "in connection with air raid precautions". No doubt, there
would have been many more deaths on the 28th August, had it not been
for the fountain. However, I don't think that should be modeled in IL2 for
reasons of balance.

I have made a 3d model of what I think the fountain should look like in IL2.

edit: but not white.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Novotny

That red light in the 109's cockpit did not indicate low air fuel as most have thought up until now: it came on when the staffel's cooks had finally knocked up breakfast and the errant nazi's were recalled for their piddly continental - a poor shadow of the full English, with its insipid orange juice and croissanty nonsense (we have much to thank the French resistance for).

That red light was Adolf Galland, smoking a cigar.


The post of letum reminds me of whatnot's "spaghetti is not realistic without tomato" post. LOL

[WTE_Galway]

The problem with water fountains is keeping the U Boats out.