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Old 12-10-2010, 01:32 AM
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Galway's right, this is well off topic.
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Old 12-10-2010, 05:31 AM
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Well you cannot really say this is environmentally sound ...
Pilots must have had baked beans for breakfast.. just as well they were going fast, or they might have exploded.
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Old 12-10-2010, 12:24 PM
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i looked on youtube & i couldn't find any IJN or IJA gun camera ..

they didn't have any... did they?
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Old 12-10-2010, 12:39 PM
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i looked on youtube & i couldn't find any IJN or IJA gun camera ..

they didn't have any... did they?
The link that was originally posted was of U.S. gun cameras over Japan. The title is a little misleading.. i thought the same thing as you did. As for Japan having gun cameras on their planes check out this link:

http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aerial_cameras
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Old 12-10-2010, 01:13 PM
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The link that was originally posted was of U.S. gun cameras over Japan. The title is a little misleading.. i thought the same thing as you did. As for Japan having gun cameras on their planes check out this link:

http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aerial_cameras
So ... they did have gun cameras but we have no footage ... ok i see!

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Old 12-10-2010, 06:03 PM
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and ... look what i just found ...

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/292/7...r_Bombing.html


Photos stored in camera for 68 years - Pearl Harbour Bombing





there some breathtaking shots there, with explosions etc..
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Old 12-10-2010, 07:07 PM
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So ... they did have gun cameras but we have no footage ... ok i see!

ThaNKS!
I remember reading somewhere that the allies destroyed all the Japanese guncam footage shortly after the war.

I'd be a little bit surprised if there wasn't some stashed away somewhere though.

Thing is, I can't think of a time between the end of the war and even now when an official release of such footage would have been politically or diplomatically beneficial. I don't think historians get a lot of say in those sort of matters, not when there are 'more important' factors involved.
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Old 12-10-2010, 07:42 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that the allies destroyed all the Japanese guncam footage shortly after the war.

I'd be a little bit surprised if there wasn't some stashed away somewhere though.

Thing is, I can't think of a time between the end of the war and even now when an official release of such footage would have been politically or diplomatically beneficial. I don't think historians get a lot of say in those sort of matters, not when there are 'more important' factors involved.
You only hide, whatever is embarasing for you ...

... and there's no way they have destroyed a single frame ... these things do not hapen in the real world ...
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Old 12-10-2010, 08:40 PM
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Guy talking about shooting (german ) pilots in parachutes:



No mercy for Japanese sailors



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Old 12-10-2010, 10:40 PM
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er ..... when a person finds him self in life threating situation goes through a metamorphosis so to speak.

To the above add the "alien environment"

the fact you can't decide for your self

you are constantly under terrible stress

you are surrounded basically by males

females are scarce so tension builds up geometrically

and so on ...

That guy shooting those helpless persons in the water
would possibly even shoot his own mother in the very same black waters .

That 's the altered state of mind you possibly get into,
when you have shacked hands with death himself so to speak ...

It is my firm believe that we should refrain from judging things
that we wish, we'll never have to go through...

my point is war is war and xxxx happens,
let's hope it never happens again ... (as in WWIII)

how the yanks put it ...

my 2 or 3 cents ...

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