Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY on IL2 Authorized Addons

[MicroWave]

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

So do you call me a "liar" now?
At first you said that things like the Sniper ShVAKs 20mm gunner in Pe8 is "not a big problem" and you did not deny the meaning of the "delta angle" error. So, if does not indicate the Accuracy (dispersion) of the gun, please enlighten us, oh wise one, please. We are 'imbeciles" so we rely on your wisdom. Please, what does the "angle error" mean?

I'm not at liberty to discuss internal game mechanics with you. Just let me remind you of your posts recently:
1) B20 is used on Russian bombers and it is the cause of Sniper gunner accuracy. You failed to mention there are a number of Luftwaffe guns with the same entry.
When proved to be false, you continue
2) AHA, but there is another Russian gun which is used on one plane.
I performed ingame tests and didn't notice observable effect, if any when changing the variable. Something you could have done instead of barging in like a cowboy.
You also failed to mention that there is another gun with that entry that is used by a Luftwaffe plane.

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

And for bombs you said that it is the way they are, so you confirmed the data are correct. But now you come here and accuse me of being a "liar". Please, oh wise one, enlighten us what these parameters mean? Please do, since we are so ignorant.

Again, I'm not at liberty to discuss internal game mechanics with you. I can confirm that some of the bomb parameters look odd. At this moment it is unclear how they affect the game. Therefore it is not clear if, and to what value they should be changed.

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

So, despite they "look" "fishy" they are "correct". And then, how come and in the 2001 Original IL2 release these values Did NOT look "fishy" ?
could you explain please? Since you are the wisdom-holder.
Moreover people DO confirm these largely false data. They can "FEEL" them but they have not the data to support their feeling. Now they have.
Could you also explain to us ignorants, the meaning of the Bomb values i posted? Please?

Yes they are considered as accurate. Until proven otherwise. The proof consists of performing (preferably repeatable) ingame tests and gathering historical info. Some physical interpolation and interpretation can be used if historical info is incomplete.

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

Really? So, where are Your Historical sources for the pylons you made to weight 15 kilos? Can we see your "Sources" please?
Can we also see your sources that start the mentone bomb and rocket pylons to have Zero weight?

We have significant amount of sources regarding pylon weights and pylon weights will be changed in 4.10. I believe it was announced already?

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

Moreover can you show us your "sources" that justify the Double-Penetration value of some Weapons? Lets say the ShKAS over the .303 Brownings. can we see that please?

I'm not familiar with the subject.

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

Also, can we see your sources that proove the data from the 2001 release about Bombs as FALSE while the current game data be regarded as corrrect?

No. Those numbers were changed by 1C/Maddox and I have no reason not to trust them without a concrete proof that they are wrong. See one of the answers above.

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

Please, as i wrote above: can we see your data about the 15 Kgs pylons and for the Zero-Weight pylons also? Also about the guns, Bombs, etc....

As I said, pylons weight are changed in 4.10, no point in discussing 4.09. I can also confirm that 15kg pylon weight is a bug and was brought to our attention by someone performing ingame tests.

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

Many people have informed you for the many bugs that this game suffers, but you did nothing.

I beg to differ.

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_HaDeS

It does not only "looks" fishy, it FEELS "fishy", it IS Wrong! Like the overheating issues, the extraordinary destructiveness of Certain Bombs, Weapons, etc...
With such an attitude, i am not surprised

And what is right then? The rest is just assorted pile of complaints with zero value. No surprise.

[I/ZG52_HaDeS]

Originally Posted by MicroWave

I'm not at liberty to discuss internal game mechanics with you. Just let me remind you of your posts recently:

So your assumption and claim that i am a "liar" and these values mean something else are not valid since you don't provide any credible answer or data.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

1) B20 is used on Russian bombers and it is the cause of Sniper gunner accuracy.

I did Not say this. I only stressed that there is a Cannon that has Zero dispersion value when it used in Flexible Defensive Installations. And that this Value makes it behave like a Sniper-gun.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

You failed to mention there are a number of Luftwaffe guns with the same entry.

I would really appreciate to tell me what this gun is. If it exist though and used in a bomber, why don't you fix this also?

Originally Posted by MicroWave

When proved to be false, you continue

Nope, i accidentally posted another Cannon wich happened to be first in my folder-sorting by date. So i clicked this instead of the correct one.
If you like it or not i won't loose sleep over it.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

2) AHA, but there is another Russian gun which is used on one plane.

Check what i wrote above. And again i did not say that it is used in More than one planes. I just gave an example of how many "unoticed" bugs exist in game. And you intent to do Zero to fix them.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

I performed ingame tests and didn't notice observable effect, if any when changing the variable. Something you could have done instead of barging in like a cowboy.

Wait! This is importand. So you say that by Changing the delta angle error you didn't notice any "observable" effect, right?
If you DO confirm this then i will have a test with people and then they can post here about their experience. I can send you an example also.
Also this will prove that you lack the appropriate knowledge to fix game's bugs.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

You also failed to mention that there is another gun with that entry that is used by a Luftwaffe plane.

See above. If yes then why Don't correct this also?

Originally Posted by MicroWave

Again, I'm not at liberty to discuss internal game mechanics with you.

See above. You gave no valid reason to deny my explanation about the values in the Bombs.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

I can confirm that some of the bomb parameters look odd. At this moment it is unclear how they affect the game. Therefore it is not clear if, and to what value they should be changed.

I am sure that many people will confirm this and i doubt that you haven't encounter this. Just do an Experiment yourself. Put targets and check the destructive radius of the bombs. Easy.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

Yes they are considered as accurate. Until proven otherwise. The proof consists of performing (preferably repeatable) ingame tests and gathering historical info. Some physical interpolation and interpretation can be used if historical info is incomplete.

So BOTH the 2001 Values AND the current ones are accurate? So, 1 equals to 4 and 2 eguals to 8 ?

Originally Posted by MicroWave

We have significant amount of sources regarding pylon weights and pylon weights will be changed in 4.10. I believe it was announced already?

can you post any ? Yet again you have failed to provide any credible data for anything i have questioned you.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

I'm not familiar with the subject.

Ok, so you don't know about the "penetration" values of the bullets and the in-game damage. Anyone from TD who is experienced with this please?
I would really appreciate this info.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

No. Those numbers were changed by 1C/Maddox and I have no reason not to trust them without a concrete proof that they are wrong. See one of the answers above.

So BOTH Values the 2001 era AND the current ones are the Correct?
So 1 equals to 4, 2 to 8, etc ? See a couple of answers above.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

As I said, pylons weight are changed in 4.10, no point in discussing 4.09. I can also confirm that 15kg pylon weight is a bug and was brought to our attention by someone performing ingame tests.

At least you have admitted that you did an "approximation" based on how you "felt" about these values. We'll see when 4.10m comes out. Fair enought. It is the Only straight answer from you until now. Thank you for this.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

I beg to differ.

So you say you don't see any complains for Specific issues/bugs at all? Not even in the current thread?
What can i say if you cannot see.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

And what is right then? The rest is just assorted pile of complaints with zero value.

Right is what is Right, what Feels right over the years. Right is every issue that people gained data for. And if people complain over the years for Certain aspects and we Also have now Proof with Numbers that support their Feeling, there no other option than to be a Valid Complain, a Valid issue. Now why you don't like to address it or fix it it is not of my concern. I only pointed these out with In-Games Data which you cannot deny.

Originally Posted by MicroWave

No surprise.

Unfortunately not,

[Ltbear]

oooh forgot to my post above.

The Germans used powdered aluminium that increased the explosive effect...

The brittish had shortage of aluminium and therefore most of it whent to munitions for the RN. Its actualy first in 1944 that British bombs are considered as effective as the German counterparts....

Im not native englsih speaking but im talking about alumised explosives <--- that is a huge factor allied vs German bombs....