Ethics of pilots fighting for the sides in WWII

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

What I do know, is that when 'Storm of War/Cliffs of Dover/What-Ho Fritz, and Tally-Ho!' does get released, you won't see me in a 109.

Me neither. You may find me in a 110 though, I prefer the underdog.

[el0375]

really tahnk to all of you. one of teh most constuctive threads i have been trhough! Most of them can i say give the real picture without any prejudice and makes many aspects clearier.

Really enjoy that most of this comes around of il2 not because is a ''game'' but a kind of method to get a glimpse of how was to be at that time.
i think teh highest peak of such thing was Silent Hunter 3 with GWX full realism. In teh uboats the tension wa svery high! on 3 and more occasions i spent 3+ hours just to avoid a ship pinging me and sinking me. Thats was teh most autehntic 'simulated' fight for survival that i ever had.

Remember also the great teamwork dogfight that i had 1 or 2 years ago with some 4S freccia and Veltro where we kept formation and used teamspeak we could manage to kill many planes.. Memorable when we flew at high altitude and strafed one at a time a poor foe with good, short shots at it and get tehn altitude, and let the other team mate attack.

[BadAim]

I think the good naturedness of this thread comes down to the fact that this game attracts a lot of history buffs. I think that in spite of vastly different backgrounds and worldviews we share a respect for the common warrior. I suppose it's the least we can do, right or wrong, they shaped the world we live in.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

Me neither. You may find me in a 110 though, I prefer the underdog.

Yes, I can see the Whirlwind. Curious choice.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by BadAim

I think the good naturedness of this thread comes down to the fact that this game attracts a lot of history buffs. I think that in spite of vastly different backgrounds and worldviews we share a respect for the common warrior. I suppose it's the least we can do, right or wrong, they shaped the world we live in.

Agreed on all counts.

[Richie]

+1

[moilami]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

What I do know, is that when 'Storm of War/Cliffs of Dover/What-Ho Fritz, and Tally-Ho!' does get released, you won't see me in a 109.

Hmm, I don't want to keep secrets so I can tell what was my evil master plan. It was to join for now in any very good squadron, get free training and when SoW Battle of Britain gets released join on the best Finnish online squadron and learn Bf 109 while waiting for Storm of War: Operations in the North with planes having Finnish Air Force markings

Dunno though can I execute my evil master plan as planned since for the first time I have found a good squadron. Usually I don't join in guilds because they all just suck, and if I join, I wont stay long. But this is different. However I am quite confident things will go as planned much like the sun rises every morning.

[Richie]

Originally Posted by moilami

Hmm, I don't want to keep secrets so I can tell what was my evil master plan. It was to join for now in any very good squadron, get free training and when SoW Battle of Britain gets released join on the best Finnish online squadron and learn Bf 109 while waiting for Storm of War: Operations in the North with planes having Finnish Air Force markings

Dunno though can I execute my evil master plan as planned since for the first time I have found a good squadron. Usually I don't join in guilds because they all just suck, and if I join, I wont stay long. But this is different. However I am quite confident things will go as planned much like the sun rises every morning.

Good Squadrons are nice but I'm such an introvert that I just wind up saying nothing on coms unless I really know the people involved like my old pals I was talking about.

[Flanker35M]

S!

I fly German planes because they are my favorites, in many areas technically more advanced than any Allied counterpart at the time. There are no political issues or glorification behind it. Of course Bf109 is one of my favs because Finnish Air Force flew them with very good results during the decisive moments of our nation's history, after talking to those who flew them too..like Kyösti Karhila, Günther Rall etc.

IMO a more serious simmer is also very keen in history, capable of seeing things in a neutral way. Not letting emotions take over but seeing the war as it was: a brutal phase of our not so glorious human history filled with violence and killing. Times change, human nature not..always driven by greed and warmongering.

[moilami]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

I fly German planes because they are my favorites, in many areas technically more advanced than any Allied counterpart at the time. There are no political issues or glorification behind it. Of course Bf109 is one of my favs because Finnish Air Force flew them with very good results during the decisive moments of our nation's history, after talking to those who flew them too..like Kyösti Karhila, Günther Rall etc.

IMO a more serious simmer is also very keen in history, capable of seeing things in a neutral way. Not letting emotions take over but seeing the war as it was: a brutal phase of our not so glorious human history filled with violence and killing. Times change, human nature not..always driven by greed and warmongering.

Train my friend. And hopefully we see Lentolaivue 34 reformed and brought back to its former glory with Erkki et all.