Friday 2010-11-19 Dev. update and Discussion

[kristorf]

'Kin ell, I will need a seperate keyboard just for the commands.............

Many thanks gents

[winny]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Thanks, all, for the input on the tracers. Lots of helpful knowledge shared here.
Winny, I wasn't sure on the issue mate. I've had many people swear against the spiralling tracers, stating that the effect is down to the camera shake in gun-cam videos. As has been shown, a lot of evidence suggests that this might have added to the effect, but the effect is definately there

To be Devil's advocate, how large can the spiral get? I'd imagine it's a lot smaller for the .303's and gun-cam videos that I've seen would support this.

Spiral size is dependant on the size of the projectile. Because they travel nose first they can only spiral by a few degrees off centre before they nose would drop too far and the bullet would start to tumble (nose over tail). The zig-zag effect you sometimes see is due to camera shake but as your video shows, no ammount of shaking camera can recreate a spiral smoke trail.

[kendo65]

I'm 99% certain that the spiralling effect in the tracer smoke is down to rifling of the barrel causing the rounds to spin, rather than any camera-shake effect.

I'm really happy that this effect is modelled (visible on many gun-camera films from this era), but as Oleg has said previously all different types of round are modelled - previous tracers showed simple light-streaks with no smoke. I have no doubt that all are modelled accurately.

I'm a little bit surprised at some of the reactions to the spiral tracer smoke though - when the previous tracers were shown there was a chorus of voices asking where was the smoke?!?

[SlipBall]

Yes, the spiralling effect in the tracer smoke is because of the rifling of the barrel...absolutely

[philip.ed]

Once again, thankyou everyone Saves Oleg some time answering, too.

[Richie]

I really like the little JG 26 Crow. One of my favorite insignias. So whimsical.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

You mean like making your own gear lever? You are right, that's a good question and i totally missed this when i was asking about such things just one post above yours. Supposing a two-way switch gives a continuous signal, then it would need different interpretation or handling by the game engine.

An instantaneous switch would just send the command "gear up", but having a two-way switch that stays in place would trasmit "gear up...gear up...gear up..." all the time
Although, i think that you can get around this limitation by using certain kinds of circuit design for your custom controller. I'm not sure but i vaguely remember seeing some diagramms on leo bodnar's website about making his controllers work that way.

Where's the problem, use a flip switch, up and down each give the same signal, just like in IL2.

The only thing you should make sure is, that the switch is in down position before you lift off - can't go wrong.


Edit: No, I'm wrong.
In fact I would love to able to abort the retraction/extension process in midaction too.

[Richie]

I think he's funny

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by kendo65

I'm 99% certain that the spiralling effect in the tracer smoke is down to rifling of the barrel causing the rounds to spin, rather than any camera-shake effect.

I'm really happy that this effect is modelled (visible on many gun-camera films from this era), but as Oleg has said previously all different types of round are modelled - previous tracers showed simple light-streaks with no smoke. I have no doubt that all are modelled accurately.

I'm a little bit surprised at some of the reactions to the spiral tracer smoke though - when the previous tracers were shown there was a chorus of voices asking where was the smoke?!?

I think the debate was about whether the smaller RAF 303 rounds should have smoking tracers or not. In IL2 they didn't while the larger rounds did.

I've seen plenty of footage of smoke trails coming from 303 rounds but I'm sure as Oleg says, different tracers had different properties and some types may have been smokeless.

[Kwiatek]

I wonder what exacly mean and in which plane is such control:

Throttle War Emergency Power ??

I know 109 and Spit control panel and never see such thing?