Friday 2010-11-12 Dev. update and Discussion

[pupaxx]

Hi Oleg,
extraordinary work!!!
Just a word about first video showing lighting&effects testbed...
I hope (I've no doubt it will be done in final release) some effect like reflections will be properly tuned up.
I'd like to remember that german planes in WWII were painted with standardized paints. The colors of this paints were registered as RLM# (Reichs Luftfahrt Ministerium). They had a satin finish, Ju87 recalled in first video had a splinter camouflage for upper surfaces in RLM 70 dunkelgrun and RLM 71 schwartzgrun. These paints quickly degradaded in operational service.
An interesting document, on how these colours appeared and how reflective they were, is the first link I suggest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNP8...eature=related

this video represents flight activity in jagdgruppe 77 (bf109) in early days of war, note (mainly at the end) how the paint finish reflective is (clearly satin).

The second link is a video referring to flying activity in eastern front, at 0:35 and 0:43 is showed a special care dedicated to the commander's plane.
It wasn't an ordinary duty to polish every single plane in a unit. Only on demand of a commanding officer and if they had time and manwork to spend.
(I'm referring to sole color video, above sx on page)
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

Third: a picture from Flying legends 2008 on the maximum amount of reflection shoud have a plane in SOW (IMAH-taste).
DSC_0374.JPG


Thank for your work!
Ciao

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by major_setback

Just to note: The high quality download is a little bit lighter than the Youtube version, and a bit clearer.

Thankyou, I'll test it out cheers for always being so helpful

[BadAim]

And don't forget, Phil, that Oleg said that the effects were exaggerated on purpose, this vid is only a lighting demo, and not any indication of colors (as exaggerated lighting will also exaggerate colors)

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by pupaxx

Hi Oleg,
extraordinary work!!!
Just a word about first video showing lighting&effects testbed...
I hope (I've no doubt it will be done in final release) some effect like reflections will be properly tuned up.
I'd like to remember that german planes in WWII were painted with standardized paints. The colors of this paints were registered as RLM# (Reichs Luftfahrt Ministerium). They had a satin finish, Ju87 recalled in first video had a splinter camouflage for upper surfaces in RLM 70 dunkelgrun and RLM 71 schwartzgrun. These paints quickly degradaded in operational service.
An interesting document, on how these colours appeared and how reflective they were, is the first link I suggest:

this video represents flight activity in jagdgruppe 77 (bf109) in early days of war, note (mainly at the end) how the paint finish reflective is (clearly satin).

The second link is a video referring to flying activity in eastern front, at 0:35 and 0:43 is showed a special care dedicated to the commander's plane.
It wasn't an ordinary duty to polish every single plane in a unit. Only on demand of a commanding officer and if they had time and manwork to spend.
(I'm referring to sole color video, above sx on page)
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

Third: a picture from Flying legends 2008 on the maximum amount of reflection shoud have a plane in SOW (IMAH-taste).
Attachment 3920


Thank for your work!
Ciao

I agree with you... as well as I noted in my very first post of this topic that the effects are increased for the good visbility.

Simply some boys and even aged people thinking that how the museum aircraft looks after the war with new paint now and in some games - should be here in BoB. Its like to have Mustang polished up to the mirror level and put such "paintscheme" in a WWII fligth sim..
Very the same sample.

RLM colors: We use them exactly But with the different lighting tints may change. Like in life.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by BadAim

And don't forget, Phil, that Oleg said that the effects were exaggerated on purpose, this vid is only a lighting demo, and not any indication of colors (as exaggerated lighting will also exaggerate colors)

Ah OK, many thanks Question answered
Cheers.

[major_setback]

Oleg: In the future maybe..will it be possible for textures to change if it rains..will tarmac (roads) become darker?

Sometimes it looks unreal with heavy rain and unchanged textures...in most sims the textures are the same.

[heywooood]

Ok - I am back

You can release the new Storm of War: Cliffs of Dover simulation now.

Thank you Mr Maddox and Mr Schevchenko - your work is like Stradivarius only more so

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

And in this case the good hard manual development of excellent precise models is a guarantie for a long life title

What wise words. We'll not see any technology for a long long time wich will allow to model some raw low poly models and with a click they'll turn to a high poly tessalated wonder-model.

Forget about that.

[Trumper]

This is what a wartime unrestored Spitfire looks like,no shine,dirty,worn seats and harnesses.
Credit to the author of the thread
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=26834

Or type in Spitfire Mk 1A R6915 Lambeth

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Trumper

This is what a wartime unrestored Spitfire looks like,no shine,dirty,worn seats and harnesses.
Credit to the author of the thread
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=26834

Or type in Spitfire Mk 1A R6915 Lambeth

Thankyou for sharing, lovely pictures. I've seen it in person, and it's a lovely spit; well worth a visit IMHO. I haven't been for some time though, so I ought to try and make the time to visit the museum again.
I trust that it's still in this condition? I say this as I remember my Dad telling me how he used to love to visit the museum as a boy, but it used to amaze him at the level of dust and grime on the canopy. He half wished he could get up there to clean it himself