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Old 11-09-2010, 06:29 PM
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Why would it? Do you have some first hand info (say a manual) that states it could drop the fuel tank?
If it was on fire, for instance.

I realize it would not be an easy thing to do since it would mean making an entirely new 3d model. It wouldn't be unreasonable to simply make a "fire extinguisher" for it.

Beasically, it is a tall cylinder in front of the pilot, and it makes the bottom of the forward fuselage. It simply falls out the bottom of the aircraft, between the gear legs.

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The aircraft was conventional in layout, with high wings, all-metal, metal-covered. The cockpit was open. An internal fuel tank in a hull could be dropped in case of fire emergency. The armament was two 7.92 mm machineguns on hull sides, though a third of the P.11cs had two additional machine guns in the wings. The P.11c could carry four small 12.5 kg bombs (P.11a could not). The radial engines used were: P.11a: Bristol Mercury IV S2 (normal: 525 hp (391 kW), maximum: 575 hp); P.11b: Gnome-Rhone 9Krsd (550 hp, max: 595 hp), P.11c: Bristol Mercury V S2 (565 hp, max: 600 hp) or Mercury VI S2 (590 hp, max: 630 hp), P.11f: Gnome-Rhone 9Krse (560 hp, max: 610 hp).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_P.11

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In 1939, when Nazi Germany invaded Poland, the PZL P.11 was outclassed in terms of performance by both Messerschmitt Bf 109 and Bf 110 fighters. It also had absolutely inadequate firepower, 70% of the aircraft being equipped only with two 7.9 mm machine guns (and pilots often preferred these over the four-machine gun version, saying that additional weight affected the plane's performance - especially the climb rate!) It was, however, very maneuverable and sturdy airplane, and its short take-off facilitated operations from improvised airfields. A unique feature was its jettisonable fuel tank. However, it had no armor protection for the pilot.
http://avstop.com/history/aroundthew...oland/p11.html

I wish I could find some diagrams that I found some time ago...

Will get back to you.
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:51 PM
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If you find any good references for the appearance of the plane without the wing guns you should send them to TD as well...
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:02 PM
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Here's an in-cockpit shot. You can see the fuel tank cylinder plainly. It is not behind any sort of fire-wall, so the pilot is directly exposed in the event of a fire.



If you look carefully, you can see a cut-out between the gear legs, and just aft of where the tension cables meet.



It's just a model, but the brass part shows the bottom of the fuel tank, as well as the connection/release straps (also modeled in brass).





Still trying to get a manual....
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:42 PM
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Not necessary, got one myself, only forgot about it. Nice pics, though, and interesting feature I didn't realize before.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:24 PM
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P.11 had fuel tank?Where?
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:13 PM
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Every airplane that's not a glider or powered by electricity has a fuel tank
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:49 PM
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It is awesome that such a plane (P-11c) could survive war to be now in a aero museum. Is it original or a replica?
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It is awesome that such a plane (P-11c) could survive war to be now in a aero museum. Is it original or a replica?
It is the only one original P-11 in the world. And it is in air museum in Kraków in Poland. It engine still work

And P-11 had dropable fuel tank IRL. If fuel tank get fire pilot could drop it.


Also there is a project to bulit P-11 flyable replica in Poland. Maby some day we could see it in the air.


In 4.10 patch there will be improved P-11 model with new DM hit boxes and i hope FM also.

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Old 11-09-2010, 10:54 PM
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Every airplane that's not a glider or powered by electricity has a fuel tank
No,wait,you mean plane´s own fuel tank,not the additional fuel tanks.
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:50 PM
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No,wait,you mean plane´s own fuel tank,not the additional fuel tanks.
Yes. However, it's not the first with that feature. The Polish PWS-10 also had a drop-able main fuel tank.



Who originally came up with the idea is anyone's guess.

As for the wing guns, it would seem like a relatively easy addition - delete the barrels, flatten the blisters, adjust the skin to reflect the changes (I'm sure the blisters use "lighting" illusion enhancement) and modify the weight/balance of the guns and ammo (I don't know any details there).
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