DRAFT: BOP Fairplay Policy Agreement

Korsakov829 · #1 11-09-2010, 04:15 PM

A little off topic, but I have no idea what regiment, or formation since I was told about it 40 years ago. I'm sure it is documented, I might find it if I ask to see some files but I doubt it. But from what I was told he did crash his plane into enemy posistions, destroying two tanks.

Like I said, it has been done. The Luftwaffe pilots would bail out before they crashed their plane into a target. So I see no reason why reenacting this in the game would be unfair.

Robotic Pope · #2 11-09-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829

A little off topic, but I have no idea what regiment, or formation since I was told about it 40 years ago. I'm sure it is documented, I might find it if I ask to see some files but I doubt it. But from what I was told he did crash his plane into enemy posistions, destroying two tanks.

Like I said, it has been done. The Luftwaffe pilots would bail out before they crashed their plane into a target. So I see no reason why reenacting this in the game would be unfair.

Yeah but people don't aim their plane at a target and then bail out. What they are doing is Kamikaze. I'd like to see you aim your plane and then bail out while still at a suvivable altitude and still hit the target.

One of more awesome moments in a strike game happened the other night. We were playing 4 or 5 Blenhiems against 6 german ships with 3 109 fighters. Limited ammo. Germans won if they didn't lose all their tickets, British won if we took all 300 german tickets. No bailing from undamaged planes or crashing on purpose. I few a blenheim and went for a level bombing at 13,000 ft , dropped my 2 500lb'ers and turned back to land at hawkinge. Just before I reached the coast BeaverCompany's 109 suprised me and shot up my wings and number 1 engine went out giving me 0% throttle before I was able to kill him with my rear gun. I glided all the way back to hawkinge losing 12000 ft in the process, and touched down succesfully right on the start of the runway at stalling speed. That felt really good. I can't remember how the game finished, it didn't matter.

I can tell you, giving yourself a challenge makes the game far more fun. If you get damaged over the enemy bunkers, try to get back over a imaginary front line. See how far you can get back, and know if you bailout under 1000ft your crew are going to break bones.

Davedog74 · #3 11-09-2010, 05:55 PM

yes there are cases of pilots ramming in ww2,but as the thread states,its about fair play,and ramming isnt appreciated in this game.

bobbysocks · #4 11-09-2010, 06:48 PM

that is why i like a game where all the rules are known up front. and that mostly happens when you play with a select group of friends who share the same interest and opinion.

if i had an uncle that took out 2 tiger tanks with an unloaded ac...i would know the whole history about that...pictures, letters, anything i could find. but that is just me.

Korsakov829 · #5 11-09-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Davedog74

yes there are cases of pilots ramming in ww2,but as the thread states,its about fair play,and ramming isnt appreciated in this game.

But I just don't see why not. It would seem true to history at least.

bobbysocks · #6 11-09-2010, 07:23 PM

as long as others are playing the same rules...knock yourself out, man. just know it might not be tolerated across the board and in every game. something you may wish to talk about in the lobby prior to starting.

Korsakov829 · #7 11-09-2010, 07:38 PM

I'll look up a few millitary aviation handbooks if I remember. I'm sure, one will say "If out of ammunition and fuel, have all crew members but pilot eject, and then ram the target".

It is not unfair or dishonorable in any way if you ram the target.

McQ59 · #8 11-09-2010, 10:11 PM

You may be right my friend.The only 1 difference that Strikes my mind is that you'll live to tell.

Gilly · #9 11-10-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829

A little off topic, but I have no idea what regiment, or formation since I was told about it 40 years ago. I'm sure it is documented, I might find it if I ask to see some files but I doubt it. But from what I was told he did crash his plane into enemy posistions, destroying two tanks..

Can you provide anything further about this.
I know that there were only 3 regiments flying IL10's over Berlin- 571st, 108th and 118th for a total of 120 aircraft. What date did it happen as this will narrow down the regiments. From what I've managed to track down there were between 10-15 IL10's lost during this period. I have already discounted 6 of these from german documents and will continue to narrow down. I also have a avid german tank nut of a mate looking at the King Tiger aspect. This should be easier as of early April 1945 there was only the SS tank battalion 503 using King Tigers in Berlin. There were only 13 operational so he reckons he can easily determine which tigers it was. As a side note by 30th April there were only 2 remaining of which one managed to disable or destroy 30 T34's!!!

Couple of other things:
You say your uncle ran put of fuel and ammo. As the range of the IL10 was in excess of 500miles how did he manage this as 'home base' would have been no further than 50miles outside of Berlin??
Did he or indeed his rear gunner survive the crash?

Korsakov829 · #10 11-10-2010, 01:53 PM

The rear gunner survived but died later since he landed on a building. I mean absolutely out of fuel, as well. Me and my father never got along well, so I don't know much. Perhaps you could be willing to dig it up though, it doesn't really matter to me.