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Old 11-06-2010, 02:01 PM
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STORM OF WAR Battle for Moscow is not the correct name to me.

Germany never comes to moscow capital.

The correct name to me is:

STORM OF WAR Operation Barbarossa (Unternehmen Barbarossa)
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:21 PM
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STORM OF WAR Battle for Moscow is not the correct name to me.

Germany never comes to moscow capital.

The correct name to me is:

STORM OF WAR Operation Barbarossa (Unternehmen Barbarossa)
It might not be the correct name to you, but it is correct.

'battle for' not 'battle in'. note the difference....

moscow was the objective....
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:21 PM
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STORM OF WAR Battle for Moscow is not the correct name to me.

Germany never comes to moscow capital.

The correct name to me is:

STORM OF WAR Operation Barbarossa (Unternehmen Barbarossa)
So you also want to change the name of the Battle of Britain? Germany never invaded Britain either, just overflew and bombed it, as they overflew and bombed Moscow.

Barbarossa is the whole Operation, from Karelia to the Black Sea and the upcoming sim will not focus on that whole operation, but just focus on the Battle of Moscow.

See more here, for your information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Moscow
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Old 11-06-2010, 02:26 PM
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nice Video

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Old 11-06-2010, 02:28 PM
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Yes the name is right, it was one of the turn points in the eastern conflict, much looking forward flying on the eastern front again!
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Germany never comes to moscow capital.
Actually they did -- as close as the last tram line stop from the capital center. Moscow was bombed by the Luftwaffe. The Germans digged themselves into trenches there, until the russian counteroffensive in Winter 41. It was one of the most important battles of the russian front, and it has nothing to do with Operation Barbarossa per se.
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And one of the most important of the war! Would there have been any other battles on the Eastern front if Moscow had fallen? Probably not. The Soviet regime would probably have fallen. not certainly, but probably. So, the Battle of Moscow was more important than Stalingrad, Kursk, Leningrad, etc.
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:15 PM
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And one of the most important of the war! Would there have been any other battles on the Eastern front if Moscow had fallen? Probably not. The Soviet regime would probably have fallen. not certainly, but probably. So, the Battle of Moscow was more important than Stalingrad, Kursk, Leningrad, etc.
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Capture Moscow: Russia collapses? Hitler wished it, German Generals wished it, for real? I don't think so. According to the Wikipedia page linked above Stalin moved the communist party out of Moscow:

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On 13 October, Stalin ordered the evacuation of the Communist Party, the General Staff and various civil government offices from Moscow to Kuibyshev (now Samara), leaving only a limited number of officials behind. The evacuation caused panic among Moscovites. From 16 October to 17 October, much of the civilian population tried to flee, mobbing the available trains and jamming the roads from the city. Despite all this, Stalin publicly remained in the Soviet capital, somewhat calming the fear and pandemonium.
So, they might have got Stalin himself, if they were very quick, but they'd have missed the mass of the party. I don't think the USSR would have collapsed.
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:26 PM
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So, they might have got Stalin himself, if they were very quick, but they'd have missed the mass of the party. I don't think the USSR would have collapsed.
You'd be surprised, but "mass of the party" would be like 25% of adult population of the USSR at the time. May be, even more.

Loss of Moscow would mean loss of connection between South-Eastern and Northern part of the country. Basically, all the area north of Moscow, including Leningrad and Murmansk would have been cut off from the rest of the USSR. Not to mention a huge moral drop, should the city be lost. Plus, loss of the whole industrial region around Moscow.
So, it may not be an end, but a terrible disaster for the country - most definitely. What could happen then - who knows? Quite probably, Japan would join the war against the USSR too, after this. So...
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:30 PM
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So you also want to change the name of the Battle of Britain? Germany never invaded Britain either, just overflew and bombed it, as they overflew and bombed Moscow.

Barbarossa is the whole Operation, from Karelia to the Black Sea and the upcoming sim will not focus on that whole operation, but just focus on the Battle of Moscow.

See more here, for your information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Moscow
OOOOOOOOOOOO MMMMMMMMMMMMY GODDDDDDDD

german raid Britain completly. 90% of all citys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but Never Bomb Moscow.


The battle will be from Minsk to 50km west of moscow.
From this way, the name is very very WINGS OF PREY. (city battles) (very small sceneries) this is not good for me. i don't like the idea.

anyway, i think that will be better another scenario, like Leningrad, whit German forces, Finland Forces and Russian Forces in 1941. that will be nice
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