SoW: Battle for Moscow and other Igromir news

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by 150GCT_Veltro

Ju-88 inside the cockpit is incredible, really great!

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3743507.html...bc000730696f75

It looks, like nobody at the fair didn't find out, that the defensive guns could be controlled in 2 ways. I.e. in the Ju-88 rear gunner, you can also rotate the whole gun mount (circular window), plus the gun within it. Hence, this particular gun has 3 DoF.

[Richie]

I get a kick out of that copilot. He looks like he's in deep shock. Something Like Buddy Hackett and Mickey Rooney in "The Mad Mad Mad Mad World" in that twin Beachcraft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ir-3...eature=related

[150GCT_Veltro]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

It looks, like nobody at the fair didn't find out, that the defensive guns could be controlled in 2 ways. I.e. in the Ju-88 rear gunner, you can also rotate the whole gun mount (circular window), plus the gun within it. Hence, this particular gun has 3 DoF.

Thank for the info.

I begin only now to understand the potentiality of this game. The Ju-88 is really cinematographic, and it will be a dream to fly. I can't imagine a night mission over England with this kinde of cockpit, really immersive.

However i'm still afraid about the hunting side of the sim for the Germans. One only Emil for us Spitfire hunters is not so good.

Have you info about other versions like E1, and may be E3 with armoured protection?

[Peffi]

Shadows on the windows. I don't like that shadows appear so much on the cockpit windows.Makes you feel as if the cockpit is full of smoke.The outside world is not in the shadow just because the cockpit is in the shadow. The shadows made by trees etc on the ground are too strong. The reflective lighting from the surroundings are not strong enough. The terrain colors are too vivid. Take a look at the small river. It looks as if someone poured a strong blue color into it. But who knows. Everything we see is not the final product. Maybe most of this is intentional by Oleg. To really be able to judge we have to wait for the final product, March 2011 it seems .....

[Rodolphe]

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An incompleted list of available vehicles :



Protze Kfz. 69


Albion AM 463



Fiat OCI 708


The "could be" FN 63C tractor



Sd. Kfz 252



Ford G917



Austin K2 ATV



Sd. Kfz. 11



Opel Blitz



30cwt Morris CDSW



Unic P-107



Morris CS8



SPA TL 37



BMW R 71



Scammell Pioneer SV2S



A.10 Tilly



Scammell Pioneer TRMU 30



Austin K2


Sd. Kfz 10/1


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[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

If the fire is in cockpit, IRL you would be concerned how to get out ASAP and not how to extinguish it. Because oxygen, or not, you'll get a severe burns in the matter of seconds. IL-2, IMO is way more forgiving in that part, i.e. it gives you much more time when the plane is burning, then you'd have IRL.

PS. BTW, that's what AI does in game, they may try to extinguish the flames somehow, when a wing or tail burns. But if fire gets too close to the cockpit, they just bail out.

Yes, I agree! Although I'm sure I've read a pilot report where the fire was coming from the oxygen tank, and he turned it off (first) in order to stop the flames coming out of the mask! As the d-type oxygen mask uses an open-flow system.
This is quite complex though, and the fact that what you have said is programmed into the AI is awesome.

[NSU]

thx Rodolphe, nice listing

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I've read a pilot report where the fire was coming from the oxygen tank, and he turned it off (first) in order to stop the flames coming out of the mask! As the d-type oxygen mask uses an open-flow system.
This is quite complex though, and the fact that what you have said is programmed into the AI is awesome.

In the first place, it is rather rare happening. He, probably, got some oxygen lines between tank and mask partially severed, so the fire was sucked by air flow and brought into the mask.
It would require a lots of things programmed to get such situation possible, but would it be justified, taking in account, this situation may happen, like, once in million?

I think, you'd have enough bother, managing your fuel tanks and engines.

[philip.ed]

Yes, you're right, it was a very rare situation.
What wasn't rare, though, was for fire, which has gotten into the cockpit, to be pushed into the pilots face by the mask because the mask acted as a human blow torch Scary stuff. Turning off the oxygen supply to the mask would help stop this

[Rodolphe]

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Originally Posted by SaQSoN

In the first place, it is rather rare happening. He, probably, got some oxygen lines between tank and mask partially severed, so the fire was sucked by air flow and brought into the mask.

Though the Oxygen regulator gages are visible on the instrument panel, the Oxygen lines are, for some strange reason, missing on this WIP screen of the Hurricane.








Hurricane Mk I Air Publication 1564A

#59 Oxygen supply bayonet socket







Hurricane Mk II Air Publication 1564B & D

#6 Oxygen supply cock.


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