Friday 2010-10-29 Dev. update and Discussion

[Ltbear]

Originally Posted by Hood

There's nothing wrong with DRM if it means that the developers get paid the money they should receive. Yes its inconvenient for us, and yes it means those with dial up may suffer, and yes it means that some won't buy the game. The flip side is that the developers get paid and they keep producing great games for the majority us to play.

Don't forget that DRM is only a response to software piracy and without one the other wouldn't be needed. Not everyone is a software pirate but everyone has the potential to be one, and DRM removes the temptation.

If you won't buy a game because of DRM then that is your choice and of course you're entitled to follow that course of action. I think you'll be left behind though. I'm just hoping that if DRM is implemented that it isn't done so in an obstructive way.

Hood

All i can say is that as a long time modder and player of the SH series the DRM was a complete dicaster.

DRM can proberbly work, but with the extremly bad support Ubi have both on there site and on the phone and mixed up with a semi broken protection system (werry unstable) it will be sad if SOW should end up in the grinder....im not talking about other version of DRM im talking strictly about the one Ubi are using.....

And well if ubi earned more with that, they aint using it to fix a broken game...(sh V is a In house) production.....

Personaly i could live with 10 versions of starforce than one version of Ubi`s fancy dandy DRM...

[Solnyshko]

Originally Posted by Hood

...I'm just hoping that if DRM is implemented that it isn't done so in an obstructive way.

not being locally connected (for whatever reason) or a server down at the other end is going to be obstructive. Anyway, 'nuff said on this subject. Publisher will most probably be announced later today

Originally Posted by Hood

There's nothing wrong with DRM if it means that the developers get paid the money they should receive. Yes its inconvenient for us, and yes it means those with dial up may suffer, and yes it means that some won't buy the game. The flip side is that the developers get paid and they keep producing great games for the majority us to play.

Don't forget that DRM is only a response to software piracy and without one the other wouldn't be needed. Not everyone is a software pirate but everyone has the potential to be one, and DRM removes the temptation.

If you won't buy a game because of DRM then that is your choice and of course you're entitled to follow that course of action. I think you'll be left behind though. I'm just hoping that if DRM is implemented that it isn't done so in an obstructive way.

Hood

What a silly post. If the majoraty of gamers would think like this, we wouldn't have any privacy at all any more. You seem to have no personal opinion, you just nod in agreement like these nodding dogs to every sh*t the publisher pretends to be necessary.

It's not only that DRM causes a permanent internet connection to the publisher (who knows what private data they read out and use for their statistics and other) and as you can see, game servers are switched off already after a year or two.
Imagine this happens with SoW.

And, why is it the publishers decision when I will be able to play a game? It's my right to play it when I want to and where I want to.

[Ltbear]

Originally Posted by Solnyshko

not being locally connected (for whatever reason) or a server down at the other end is going to be obstructive. Anyway, 'nuff said on this subject. Publisher will most probably be announced later today

sorry...got fired up..... wount happen again

Nvidia 3D Vision. Sounds like they want to test SoW with it.

[Richie]

I thought Ubisoft forgot about this sim years ago.

[DD_crash]

Originally Posted by Richie

I thought Ubisoft forgot about this sim years ago.

After the Grumman incident I think that Oleg hopes so ;0

[Richie]

Maybe our K4's will have a little more poop if SOW continues on threw the war years

http://www.servinghistory.com/topics..._109K_Kurf_Rst

I've seen this top speed listed in books too and this pilot on "Dogfights"...although who can trust that...says he had a heck of a time with one and you can see it's a K4 buy the covers on the retracts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCGXPnYqks0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIi_j...eature=related

I'll have to try his snazzy maneuver some day.

[dduff442]

No sim developer should consider Ubisoft. Even forgetting the DRM fiasco and legitimate concerns about privacy and ownership, the entire Silent Hunter series is a disaster as a simulator.

Escort and anti-sub aircraft ai are much simpler than air-to-air ai, but Ubi make a mess of it. The sensors are 'modelled' in such a way that they can't even be modded to give reasonable answers, and if 1C:Maddox did subs you'd have options of modelling trim tanks, CoG changes from launched torpedoes etc, and boats would handle realistically.

After several generations of big-selling games, Ubi have never even attempted to fix any of these problems: instead, they've chosen to add more layers of buggy, poorly thought-out human content that might by okay if it only worked.

Ubi have nothing to offer 1C and 1C shouldn't get suckered into offering Ubisoft credibility they don't deserve.

dduff

[Redwan]

Oh ! I thought that I was on the Silent Hunter Forum

Personaly I think that discussions about UBI's credibility and other ragots, should be held in appropriate topics and I hope that we will keep on talking about BoB. Please keep in mind that people who read this topic are borred of searching a post related to BoB in the middle of all these ragots ...

By the way, does anyone know if U-Boots will be modeled in BoB ?
If yes, will they be able to dive or will we have two versions like in IL2, one above and an other one under the water ?