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Old 10-14-2010, 05:43 AM
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Just get the TIR5 if any way financially feasible as its far more idiot proof and plug and play than the 3Pro I used for years .Considering what we spend on graphics cards etc its NOT that dear...
Personally i'm not against the cost or the product, what bothers me is how the company act, that want have a monopoly, read the link some posts ago.. you can have an idea of how naturalpoint is.. so i'll never buy a their product...
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:41 AM
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Personally i'm not against the cost or the product, what bothers me is how the company act, that want have a monopoly, read the link some posts ago.. you can have an idea of how naturalpoint is.. so i'll never buy a their product...
.. but you clearly use Windows and MS are far worse than natural point even going as far as buying competing products and taking them off the market.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:55 AM
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I really don't know what some people here have against NaturalPoint?
If i had developed a brought into the market a cash cow like TIR, i would protect it any way i could.
Anybody who thinks that a company willingly accept losses is, imho, a idealistic dreamer.
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:07 AM
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I really don't know what some people here have against NaturalPoint?
If i had developed a brought into the market a cash cow like TIR, i would protect it any way i could.
Anybody who thinks that a company willingly accept losses is, imho, a idealistic dreamer.
would you like to drive a car that accept the gas only from a company? or that you can put on only the tyres that they tell you? why should I buy a game where i can use only trackIR and not another competitor? DCS had to remove their support to freetrack because TrackIR said so.... that's why i'm against them...

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maybe we are going offtopic and probably this is not the right forum where talk about TIR vs. Freetrack and so on... so sorry for this debate..

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Old 10-14-2010, 07:15 AM
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maybe we are going offtopic and probably this is not the right forum where talk about TIR vs. Freetrack and so on... so sorry for this debate..
It's like discussing the mods and teh cracking of the IL2 source code. People have already decided which side they take, are not really going to debate impartially and in the end are just going to bash each other and flame.

It is not really a debate in the sense that either side will actually change their mind because of logical points made by the opposition.
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:02 AM
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.. but you clearly use Windows and MS are far worse than natural point even going as far as buying competing products and taking them off the market.
but i can also choose linux or a mac, no? maybe i use windows only for games??
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:22 AM
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Why does TrackIR not use DirectInput? Because it does not support head trackers? Oh look, it does support head trackers.

"DI8DEVTYPESUPPLEMENTAL_HEADTRACKER

Device that tracks head movement."
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&hl=en&ct=clnk

So why does TrackIR interface exist? I wonder...
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:11 AM
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Personally i'm not against the cost or the product, what bothers me is how the company act, that want have a monopoly, read the link some posts ago.. you can have an idea of how naturalpoint is.. so i'll never buy a their product...

Huh?

That's business - of course you'll try to dominate the market and kick your competitions ass - in order to make money.

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would you like to drive a car that accept the gas only from a company? or that you can put on only the tyres that they tell you? why should I buy a game where i can use only trackIR and not another competitor? DCS had to remove their support to freetrack because TrackIR said so.... that's why i'm against them...

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maybe we are going offtopic and probably this is not the right forum where talk about TIR vs. Freetrack and so on... so sorry for this debate..
1. DCS was either stupid or there was indeed a patent infraction.

2. Would you like it better if NP shoved some cash over the counter to DCS in order to get the same result?

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Old 10-14-2010, 07:15 AM
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Huh?

That's business - of course you'll try to dominate the market and kick your competitions ass - in order to make money.
right but i offer a better product and don't force a company to use only my product... maybe this is called free market??
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:16 AM
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right but i offer a better product and don't force a company to use only my product... maybe this is called free market??
cant follow you, sorry.
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