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Old 10-14-2010, 05:15 AM
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Yea so? would you rather he wave and say better luck next time.........
Don't know about you, but I would never shoot someone in the back(aka retreating).
This is not an act war but pure murder - without the intention to capture them.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:35 AM
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Don't know about you, but I would never shoot someone in the back(aka retreating).
This is not an act war but pure murder - without the intention to capture them.
The result is the same I think, murder or war your dead either way. Dont start them.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:36 AM
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Don't know about you, but I would never shoot someone in the back(aka retreating).
This is not an act war but pure murder - without the intention to capture them.
Uhhh... no. Retreat does not exempt you as a target in war. You shoot them in the back any chance you get, or they'll do the same to you. War is war.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:48 AM
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The first thing lost in a war is humanity!
It' all about winning not petty feelings.
I don't like it, but thats the way it is.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:48 AM
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Be quiet! We know who won the war and killing Germans(soldiers and civilians alike, no discrimination) was justified because they were the root of all evil. Europe was liberated from fascist regime and came under protection of the communist wonder. What are you complain of?
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:59 AM
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Uhhh... no. Retreat does not exempt you as a target in war. You shoot them in the back any chance you get, or they'll do the same to you. War is war.
If they were just falling back to recollect - ok.

But it's may '45: they were already defeated, no danger coming from them, just running to surrender to the Americans rather than to the Red Army.

From your point of view mass executions of POWs are ok too - I mean, they potentially could hold a gun, right?
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:07 AM
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From your point of view mass executions of POWs are ok too - I mean, they potentially could hold a gun, right?
The Australian's did that with Japanese prisoner's in the pacific a lot and had no qualms about it.

I think too many people here have been conned by the Bush/neo-con propaganda that a clean war where only "bad people" get hurt is possible
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:30 AM
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From your point of view mass executions of POWs are ok too - I mean, they potentially could hold a gun, right?
Yes, I whole-heartedly support mass execution. (lol)

But seriously, that's the reality of war. I would bet that if you were in such a situation you would not give a second thought to strafing those troops. It's only from your comfortable stress-free position at your desk, not having experienced years of horror in war, that you think otherwise.
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:27 PM
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If they were just falling back to recollect - ok.

But it's may '45: they were already defeated, no danger coming from them, just running to surrender to the Americans rather than to the Red Army.

From your point of view mass executions of POWs are ok too - I mean, they potentially could hold a gun, right?
Starting from the moment when capitulation was signed ALL German units were ORDERED to stop fighting and stay where they were/ If they DISOBEYEDORDER they were legitimate target. Example from the West - U-boat, whichwere hunted for for at least a month after hostilities ended.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:54 PM
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Well, Red Army had a "slight" problem when approaching Germany and Berlin. Ilya Ehrenburg's speeches and the propaganda had driven the soldiers to a frenzy "to kill the nazis in their wombs, in their nest..kill them all, show no mercy, strike them down"..This worked fine when the war was not going well, troops rallied but closer to Germany how to restrain them anymore? They should come as a glorious Red Army, liberators of nazism brining freedom to the oppressed proletariat of Europe. So no wonder when reports of Red Army's acts on first German towns occupied reached civilians and soldiers = to west no matter what.

Rapes and other crimes were done by ALL sides of war, not just Germans. So no-one can sit on the high horse of morality and justify their acts. War is hell but no-one is clean.
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