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Old 10-10-2010, 09:44 AM
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I use the exact same setup. The linear arrangement links stick-deflection and control surface movement logically and feels better to me than a gradually increasing response. Very fine control probably isn't helped, and controlling side-slip is tricky but as many shots use heavy rudder as require fine control and overall it's more intuitive.

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Old 10-10-2010, 04:04 PM
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This might help you.

http://www.mission4today.com/index.p...p=show&kid=261

Just for fun ..... try Capt Eric Browns IL2 stick settings.

These are the most realistic settings you can find according to his experience of IL2.

Captain Eric Brown's Settings:
Pitch 0, 1, 3, 7, 9, 14, 18, 23, 27, 33
Roll 0, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, 12, 17
Yaw 0, 0, 1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 11, 14, 16

Direct copy and pate into conf ini
X=0 1 3 7 9 14 18 23 27 33
Y=0 0 1 2 3 4 6 10 12 17
Z=0 0 1 2 5 6 8 11 14 16

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Old 10-10-2010, 06:36 PM
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Which version of IL2 was this for, and what stick was he using? Did he use rudder pedals?
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Old 10-10-2010, 06:54 PM
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Which version of IL2 was this for, and what stick was he using? Did he use rudder pedals?
It was Pre v407 IIRC.

Apparently Oleg after reading his findings adjusted the "stick" accordingly but subtly, but its still interesting to fly on those stick forces.

Not sure of the stick but definitely used pedals
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:24 PM
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Those settings make your plane a brick, especially in roll and pitch. Yaw is good though as the rudder is pretty jumpy if not adjusted properly.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:01 PM
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Yes don't forget this was a few years ago, AEP ?.

For take off and landings you should notice a difference (easier).

It just shows that stick settings can make an aircraft's performance a lot sharper, but whether this is realistic to the aircraft's actual performance or not to have the inputs cranked up high to give a unrealistic input sensitivity remains a matter of discussion for us, but as far as Eric brown was concerned the IL2 aircraft were way to sensitive for the amount of stick travel and input.

Perhaps SoW could lock the stick settings from the hosts mission when sessions are joined so everyone fly's the same stick inputs

BTW there are/were Olegs settings

Oleg Maddox:
Roll: 1 3 6 12 21 32 44 61 81 100
Pitch: 1 4 8 15 24 33 44 60 77 100
Yaw: 0 10 19 32 43 54 63 74 86 100

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Old 10-10-2010, 08:25 PM
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If using 100 on everything the planes become twitchy. I tweaked Eric Brown's rudder settings a bit and now finally I got a rudder that feels better Easiest plane to test the settings is Fw190 as it has fast roll and good pitch authority. When that plane is smooth then others are too

Interesting to see how SoW will set the controls. I think Oleg & Team have bettered it too from IL-2.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:32 PM
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Yes don't forget this was a few years ago, AEP ?.

For take off and landings you should notice a difference (easier).

It just shows that stick settings can make an aircraft's performance a lot sharper, but whether this is realistic to the aircraft's actual performance or not to have the inputs cranked up high to give a unrealistic input sensitivity remains a matter of discussion for us, but as far as Eric brown was concerned the IL2 aircraft were way to sensitive for the amount of stick travel and input.

Perhaps SoW could lock the stick settings from the hosts mission when sessions are joined so everyone fly's the same stick inputs

BTW there are/were Olegs settings

Oleg Maddox:
Roll: 1 3 6 12 21 32 44 61 81 100
Pitch: 1 4 8 15 24 33 44 60 77 100
Yaw: 0 10 19 32 43 54 63 74 86 100
Just for the record, if you are having problems with accuracy like I was having, try these settings with your own fine tuning. My stick had always felt too "twitchy" for the finer adjustments needed for good marksmanship.

I actually used the pitch values also for the Yaw (Oleg's yaw values still felt a bit twitchy on my stick).

It really doesn't feel like I have lost maneuverability, just have to throw the stick a touch further for a fast reaction. What I have gained in accuracy more than makes up for what could be a slightly longer reaction time (that extra 1/4" movement needed on the stick to get a fast reaction from the plane).

Just wanted to say thanks for the info in this thread!

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Old 02-28-2012, 04:43 PM
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This might help you.

http://www.mission4today.com/index.p...p=show&kid=261

Just for fun ..... try Capt Eric Browns IL2 stick settings.

These are the most realistic settings you can find according to his experience of IL2.

Captain Eric Brown's Settings:
Pitch 0, 1, 3, 7, 9, 14, 18, 23, 27, 33
Roll 0, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, 12, 17
Yaw 0, 0, 1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 11, 14, 16

Direct copy and pate into conf ini
X=0 1 3 7 9 14 18 23 27 33
Y=0 0 1 2 3 4 6 10 12 17
Z=0 0 1 2 5 6 8 11 14 16
I think nowadays these settings are good unless you want to have a flight and feel like in Microsoft Flight Simulator!
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