Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion - Page 50

albx · #**491** 10-05-2010, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

Unfortunately I have to say I dislike it. But that is my opinion.

Far better and simpler to do would be IMO to just disable the 'wonderwoman' view, and keep the external view of your own plane on. This is something I have been requesting for IL2 ages ago...

Having cockpit always forced on and without the help of the F6 command (in IL2) would help with the transition to the locked pit servers for rookie pilots.

I don't like it (the transparent view), but also I don't think is a good idea have the cockpit always forced on, people builds cockpits and if you can't disable it in the game doesn't seem a good idea to me...

Alberto

swiss · #**492** 10-05-2010, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Certainly when playing on-line, I like to go on the sites that allow 'no cockpit view', but it's a bit disorientating when using TrackIR.

That's bad habit.
I had the steepest learning curve when switched to full real.

Try it.

Richie · #**493** 10-05-2010, 05:25 AM

It's funny I've been flying full real for years. When a subject like this comes up I think who will care but Spit VS 109s isn't the only server in Hyperlobby is it.

xnomad · #**494** 10-05-2010, 06:29 AM

Rather than a see through cockpit, if you want continuous target tracking, then a simpler option would be to allow the target icons to continue tracking inside the cockpit. This way you would know where the targets are. Perhaps have a target dot with the icon as well so you can line up your deflection shot.

I don't know why people fly Wonder Woman view but I'm guessing if they had the above they might stick to cockpit on settings?

T}{OR · #**495** 10-05-2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by matsher

Thanks for feedback Thor and Phil-Ed...
Thor- I am not sure I understand your answer though, do you mean to say that we should only have full cockpit or external views? or am I getting it wrong all wrong...

If I am correct, how would that be helping people transition into full cockpit?

All three.

No cockpit, cockpit with externals and wonder woman on / off, and full pit. ... wait a minute - thats four.

Quote:

Originally Posted by albx

I don't like it (the transparent view), but also I don't think is a good idea have the cockpit always forced on, people builds cockpits and if you can't disable it in the game doesn't seem a good idea to me...

Alberto

My reply to matsher should explain what I thought.

ATAG_Dutch · #**496** 10-05-2010, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by swiss

That's bad habit.
I had the steepest learning curve when switched to full real.

Try it.

Yeah, I know you to be right. Most of the closed cockpit stuff on HL seem to need a variety of erm, well, mods though. I have standard v4.09 and the old AAA 1.2.
All seem to be having problems with invisible planes and other anomalies.
I'm not sure I can be bothered getting UP, just to get shot down by an invisible plane whether cockpit is on or off.

Any suggestions for which servers to go for?

But all of that is another reason to look forward to SoW.
I promise I'll always fly full real when that comes along.
Anything else would be a waste!

Qpassa · #**497** 10-05-2010, 08:05 AM

You should always fly with full real, maybe with speed bar but no icons and and always cockpit enabled, no external views

swiss · #**498** 10-05-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Yeah, I know you to be right. Most of the closed cockpit stuff on HL seem to need a variety of erm, well, mods though. I have standard v4.09 and the old AAA 1.2.
All seem to be having problems with invisible planes and other anomalies.
I'm not sure I can be bothered getting UP, just to get shot down by an invisible plane whether cockpit is on or off.

Any suggestions for which 'room' to go for?

But all of that is another reason to look forward to SoW.
I promise I'll always fly full real when that comes along.
Anything else would be a waste!

1. Get UP 2.01
2. Get IL serverlibrary - enables mods automatically

3. invisible planes: happens(on some servers) if ppl decide to pick a different country than default.
Good thing: invisible planes can't cause any damage. You'll hear the noise but no damage.

4. SoV, KV13, BoB(currently down), Warclouds, Spitvs109Mod

philip.ed · #**499** 10-05-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Actually, I was deliberately hunting for flat bottoms.
Perhaps you were thinking of Kentish girls?

heheh
I think the type of Cumulus is clear in your picture. The only issue is that it proves that there are so many types of this cloud it would be murder to model it in the sim.
I think this is what Oleg and co experienced with the trees, so they opted to go the route of speed-tree. There are a few 3rd party cloud-applications which I think could be used to great advantage in SoW, but we'll see

those pictures you posted are beautiful though.

Baron · #**500** 10-05-2010, 08:37 AM

On the transparent cockpit issue.

Its not everyones job here to make sure new players play the game the "right" way, it is however Olegs job to make sure as many "newbies" as possible buys SoW and more importantly, sticks with it.